Did I fry my torch w/pics?

[Buggy Chief]

I have a Everlast PP205 STick/TIG/Plasma all in one and really like it. I was Tig welding some .063 aluminum diamond plate today and switched the TIG torch over to the Plasma Torch to cut some more diamond plate.

When I activated the trigger on the Plasma torch, some odd noises happened and no arc for Plasma. I disengaged the trigger and looked over and FORGOT TO SWITCH THE MACHINE FROM TIG TO CUT....OUCH!!!

I changed out my consumables and the Plasma torch won't cut and just down right acts odd with just a pulse of the switch. I took the head off and it appears that there is a carbon like ring before the threads that is zapped. (i initially posted in Plasma section, but wanted to gain some insight from folks that have a multi process machine).

Question is, did I really mess this up and need a new torch or can this be repaired? Did I mess my machine up in any way? Thanks in advance for any help!

[performance]

Didn't we already answer this? The torch is fried. I would not attempt to repair it. You'll need a new one. Probably did not hurt the machine. You can get a new torch from Trafimet, us or other places, but you'll need a new one.

[Kempy]

Your right Mark we did answer this yesterday (http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...I-fry-my-Torch)

[Buggy Chief]

Didn't we already answer this? The torch is fried. I would not attempt to repair it. You'll need a new one. Probably did not hurt the machine. You can get a new torch from Trafimet, us or other places, but you'll need a new one.

Thanks Mark for the update. Glad to hear I probably didn't hurt machine. I assume when I get a new one, I will just use my existing connectors ?

[zoama]

I assume when I get a new one, I will just use my existing connectors ?

Yes, you can buy just the torch head (no cable or euro connector) or the whole assembly.

I prefer the P80 torch with 1.1 mm tips but you can't get them locally. http://www.ebay.com/itm/P80-Torch-Pl...item20dbcd996b
... or http://stores.ebay.com/plasma-cutter...=p4634.c0.m322 I've ordered from them.
It's a simple tough torch and the consumables last a long time with proper use and dry air. The roller guide is really nice to have because you can get super clean cuts with a straight edge.
Everlast sells these as well.

Edit: the P80 will only work on older high frequency machines.

[Buggy Chief]

Yes, you can buy just the torch head (no cable or euro connector) or the whole assembly.

I prefer the P80 torch with 1.1 mm tips but you can't get them locally. http://www.ebay.com/itm/P80-Torch-Pl...item20dbcd996b
... or http://stores.ebay.com/plasma-cutter...=p4634.c0.m322 I've ordered from them.
It's a simple tough torch and the consumables last a long time with proper use and dry air. The roller guide is really nice to have because you can get super clean cuts with a straight edge.
Everlast sells these as well.

Thanks Zoama! I will try to look for the s45 torch head replacement since I already have consumables for it. Also, I have the Plasma Helper products from Plasmahelper.com. I found the roller can move laterally if not careful. Thanks again for your input around the torch, because it will save me some $$$ to buy more metal.

[zoama]

Thanks Zoama! I will try to look for the s45 torch head replacement since I already have consumables for it. Also, I have the Plasma Helper products from Plasmahelper.com. I found the roller can move laterally if not careful. Thanks again for your input around the torch, because it will save me some $$$ to buy more metal.

Keep a little pressure against your straight edge with the roller guide, allways make a dry run first before cutting and cut as fast as possible without skipping.

[performance]

YOU CANNOT USE THE P80 TORCH! This is a high frequency torch. It will not work.

[performance]

The cost of a new head is nearly the cost of a new torch.

[Buggy Chief]

Thanks Mark. I was confused, so thanks for the clarification.

YOU CANNOT USE THE P80 TORCH! This is a high frequency torch. It will not work.

[Buggy Chief]

Thanks for the input. I talked with Everlast Tech support yesterday and the torch is indeed fried. The bigger issue now is that Tech support said I may have fried my circuit board in my Multi Process Machine. That is really going to suck!!! No way of knowing until I get torch and try. Keep your fingers crossed.

I CAN ASSURE YOU, THIS IS A BIG LEARNING MISTAKE!!! I am an amateur and went back and read the manual that came with my machine and the new one online... No words of Caution around operating in wrong mode. Just a proposal to the Everlast folks: Be sure and put a warning in the Manual:

CAUTION: NEVER!!! EVER!!! INTENTIONALLY OR INADVERTANLY OPERATE PLASMA TORCH IN TIG OR STICK MODE!!! DAMAGE WILL OCCUR TO TORCH AND/OR MACHINE!!!

Just a proposal. Once I get the new torch later this week I will test and report back.

[everlastsupport]

The manual does say to put the switch in Plasma mode to use the plasma operation and torch. But I'm sure we can add that along with all the other safety warnings. Best to check amps before using any weld/cutting process.

The TIG output amps can be very high (depending on the AMP knob), and a plasma torch can be burnt up. Also the HF arc will jump that short electrode and nozzle gap and could also damage the HF board as well.

[Buggy Chief]

Bought new torch and the Plasma function is back up and running. Tough Mistake, but it doesn't appear that the machine was hurt. Thanks for all of the guidance everyone.