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    Quote Originally Posted by Yofish View Post
    Thanks, I don't really know what you mean by "the part not the board"?
    The individual electronic components, that are soldered to the circuit boards. Many machines are serviced by just swapping out a whole expensive board, when all it needs is a cheap component. Also the fact that Everlast is built from pretty much industry standard components, means that it can be repaired by anyone that does basic electronic repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    ........ means that it can be repaired by anyone that does basic electronic repair.
    Maybe Ram, but it depends on how you define "basic". At any rate, schematics would sure help. But that ain't gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivets View Post
    Maybe Ram, but it depends on how you define "basic". At any rate, schematics would sure help. But that ain't gonna happen.
    Actually, Everlast has shared schematics privately with people that have the skills to perform their own repairs. For obvious reasons they will not publish them publicly. That is totally understandable. Most companies that publish schematics, have proprietary components, so they don't have to worry as much about being copied.
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    Ram is 100% correct. I personally have sent them (after Oleg's permission of course).

    But, we only send a section, not the whole page or set.

    And like Ram hinted, if you are "qualified", "sometimes" we will do that. Or at least I would. I know Ray does not chance it because we've done this and had the person trash the circuit board, then come to the forum and bash us. So it is a tough call and Ray is too busy to do an EE test on each caller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    Ram is 100% correct. I personally have sent them (after Oleg's permission of course).

    But, we only send a section, not the whole page or set.

    And like Ram hinted, if you are "qualified", "sometimes" we will do that. Or at least I would. I know Ray does not chance it because we've done this and had the person trash the circuit board, then come to the forum and bash us. So it is a tough call and Ray is too busy to do an EE test on each caller.
    Great to know. Thanks guys. Info stored in my memory (mostly short term these days) bank.

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    Yes, this has been a problem...more than once. It seems everyone who buys our welder claims to be an EE. More than one or two have taken said schematics and rigged stuff and done everything from turn diodes around backwards to overheat a chip when fixing this on their own. Guess who they call up and blame? And where does the complaint go? All over the place for sure, without a trace of accepting or mentioning even partial responsibility for the ensuing aftermath of a goof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    The individual electronic components, that are soldered to the circuit boards. Many machines are serviced by just swapping out a whole expensive board, when all it needs is a cheap component. Also the fact that Everlast is built from pretty much industry standard components, means that it can be repaired by anyone that does basic electronic repair.
    Thanks for that. I like the sound of it, having been burned by main board repair outfits for Miller boards.

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