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    . . . on eBay for one of the pre-order PowerPro 256 machines. Been making due with an old 120V fluxcore wirefeed that I converted to MIG and have used for lots of small jobs. And while the little wirefeed does fine for small projects involving tubing, etc., it just doesn't have the "goo" (a technical term) to really melt metal. So I've been wanting a TIG unit, and downloaded a bunch of Jody's videos to get a few pointers on what to expect. On a few of them I saw Jody demo'ing a puke-green welder and decided I'd look into it. Meanwhile, a friend a thousand miles away suddenly offered me his old 400-lb Hobart for free, but then said the cost of the gas to pick it up might not be worth it, since he had just bought a new green welder that welds circles around the old Hobart. Over the years, this guy has forgotten more about welding than I'll probably ever learn, so between Jody's demos and my friend's endorsement (despite receiving one DOA machine and then having to replace the pot in the foot pedal on its replacement), I decided it was time to seriously consider going green. Read everything I could on the forum and elsewhere and figured I can handle whatever comes up, and it appears Everlast stands behind their equipment. So that's what sold me, in case anyone's interested.

    In the meantime I just finished wiring 250A to the groj and learned why the 'lectrician quoted me $1100 to do the job. Now have to make some room and melt some tubing together for a cart and scrounge a gas bottle or two. Anybody seen any good designs for a welder cart?

    Wish me luck.

    Slartybartfast
    TIG-noob
    Last edited by Slartybartfa; 05-24-2012 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    . . . on eBay for one of the pre-order PowerPro 256 machines. Been making due with an old 120V fluxcore wirefeed that I converted to MIG and have used for lots of small jobs. And while the little wirefeed does fine for small projects involving tubing, etc., it just doesn't have the "goo" (a technical term) to really melt metal. So I've been wanting a TIG unit, and downloaded a bunch of Jody's videos to get a few pointers on what to expect. On a few of them I saw Jody demo'ing a puke-green welder and decided I'd look into it. Meanwhile, a friend a thousand miles away suddenly offered me his old 400-lb Hobart for free, but then said the cost of the gas to pick it up might not be worth it, since he had just bought a new green welder that welds circles around the old Hobart. Over the years, this guy has forgotten more about welding than I'll probably ever learn, so between Jody's demos and my friend's endorsement (despite receiving one DOA machine and then having to replace the pot in the foot pedal on its replacement), I decided it was time to seriously consider going green. Read everything I could on the forum and elsewhere and figured I can handle whatever comes up, and it appears Everlast stands behind their equipment. So that's what sold me, in case anyone's interested.

    In the meantime I just finished wiring 250A to the groj and learned why the 'lectrician quoted me $1100 to do the job. Now have to make some room and melt some tubing together for a cart and scrounge a gas bottle or two. Anybody seen any good designs for a welder cart?

    Wish me luck.

    Slartybartfast
    TIG-noob
    You might want to take a look at mine http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...y-Welding-Cart

    ken
    UNT 520D plasma/stick/tig; Hobart Handler 140 Mig; HF 80amp stick welder; Victor O/A; 4x6 Horizontal bandsaw; Planishing hammer; & Stuff

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    Please check in with us when you get your unit. Make sure you have downloaded your manual for the unit online. If you have an questions in the mean time, don't be afraid to ask, and make use of our tech support line and forum.

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    Here my welding cart this will be my second welding cart since Click image for larger version. 

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    Welcome, Slarty, good to see another HHGTTG afficianado. What kind of wirefeed projects have you been welding on so far, and good luck with the new TIG!
    DaveO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    In the meantime I just finished wiring 250A to the groj and learned why the 'lectrician quoted me $1100 to do the job.
    Welcome! I too learned this lesson recently after installing a new feeder line to my detached garage and upgrading the subpanel. In the end I saved myself a couple hundred dollars in labor, but I'm not sure it was worth it! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    Wish me luck.
    Good luck.
    "Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyze so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance."

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    Why did you need a 250 amp subpanel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Why did you need a 250 amp subpanel?
    Must be a big garage... A while back I upgraded the house to 200 amp and put a 100 amp box in each of the 2 garages. No sub panels... Each has its own service. Try explaining that to the lady at the building department. Had to get a 400 amp meter socket. Inspector was fine with it. Power company had to bring in 350 MCM wire.

    I thought it was pretty hokey to put in 2 100 amp breakers in a 200 amp box. Was nice to have it done correctly instead of everyone (including the inspector) telling me to cut corners. I bet it would have cost me over 10k to have it hired out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    Welcome, Slarty, good to see another HHGTTG afficianado. What kind of wirefeed projects have you been welding on so far, and good luck with the new TIG!
    Dave, thanks for the welcome. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has made sense for me out of an otherwise inscrutable world. I think Adams was onto something.

    Years ago I needed a couple of ornamental steel gates to keep our kids, just out of the crawling stage, from wandering out of the front yard. So I got a quote and was told $500 each. So I explained to the wife that I could buy a cheap 120V fluxcore (a Campbell-Hausfeld from Ho' Depo' that was made by some Italian company that's supposed to make pretty good stuff), do the gates and save several hundred bucks on the deal. She went for it and I wound up with a cheap, but useable wirefeed welder. Later, I bought the bolt-on MIG conversion kit from C-H and was amazed how welding with argon/CO2 cleaned up my welds. It's really not a bad MIG welder if you have a good ground clamp. Have done a number of fences, gates, etc out of 11 and 16 ga steel tubing, made frames and racks for shelving, even a couple of vehicle tow bars that were used to tow my Xterra and pickup behind various motorhomes with no problems. Recently did my 3rd lumber rack, this one for my pickup and have had folks comment that the welds looked like TIG. Neighbors bring me odd jobs to weld up from time to time, too.

    But i've been wanting to do TIG for many years, and since a lot of my DIY projects involve aluminum, I'm getting tired of not having TIG capability and the ability to really burn deep into steel. So the PP256 is where I'm at. Hoping to get a good one.
    Last edited by Slartybartfa; 05-25-2012 at 08:40 PM.

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    You're right. I just saw that. Did that to see if anyone was reading.
    Left half of brain said 230V, the right half said 50A. So left hand typed "2" and "5," while the right hand typed the "0." What can I say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    You're right. I just saw that. Did that to see if anyone was reading.
    Left half of brain said 230V, the right half said 50A. So left hand typed "2" and "5," while the right hand typed the "0." What can I say?
    Looks like I am the power hog with the 100 amp boxes... 250 did sound like a odd number. I thought you had a large barn/shop.
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    Slarty,

    Welcome to the forums ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    So I got a quote and was told $500 each. So I explained to the wife that I could buy a cheap 120V fluxcore (a Campbell-Hausfeld from Ho' Depo' that was made by some Italian company that's supposed to make pretty good stuff), do the gates and save several hundred bucks on the deal. She went for it and I wound up with a cheap, but useable wirefeed welder.
    I actually financed the wife capital for my 256 in much the same way .... She wanted a driveway gate .

    A few things to think about while you are waiting for your unit to ship. You may want to sort out whether you are going to need a water cooler or not. Many folks, including myself, just plumb the torch to a garden hose, which seems to work pretty well. You should also figure out how you can best grind your tungsten .... There are a ton of threads here on the subject. Finally, if you don't yet have an Ar tank, then start looking for one. Deals can be found on Craigslist, if you are not in a rush. Most importantly, don't panic.

    Cheers
    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by posixPilot View Post
    Slarty,

    ... Most importantly, don't panic.

    Cheers
    Mike
    And be sure you know where your towel is!
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    I keep the towel around my neck. It's there in case I have to hitch a ride, and keeps the arc burns off my neck. Have been burned through my shirts too many times.

    Just thinking that having Zaphod's Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses might have an application to welding, but my cheap-o HF automatic welding helmet works, too.

    Oh yeah, got a notice from UPS that an 85 lb box had just had a label created and would arrive Wednesday. So need to get some argon.

    Re: the torch, I would prefer an air cooled torch, but will just hook up the supplied water-cooled torch to the laundry sink/urinal (don't tell the wife) in the groj for now.
    Last edited by Slartybartfa; 05-26-2012 at 05:18 AM. Reason: because it needed to be done

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    Re: sharpening tungsten, Friend just e-mailed me: "Sharpening tungsten is tricky and it wears out
    aluminum oxide quickly. The best thing I've found is a cheap 6in. diamond lap in about 400
    grit and mount it on the side of a regular bench wheel. Sometimes it takes a paper shim to
    replace the hub pad and give the lap proper support." http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-6-Diamon...item5d2fa98641

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    Re: the torch, I would prefer an air cooled torch
    Zoama has a couple of good threads on his CK torch on the 256. It looks like a great setup ... Light, flexible, air cooled, and a lot of amps. When I scrape the funds together, definitely going to take a serious look at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybartfa View Post
    Re: sharpening tungsten, Friend just e-mailed me: "Sharpening tungsten is tricky and it wears out aluminum oxide quickly. The best thing I've found is a cheap 6in. diamond lap in about 400
    Definitely go with the diamond lap .... AlOxide can contaminate your tungsten before you even start welding. Believe me, you dont need any help; you're gonna contaminate the tungsten just fine on your own .

    http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...read.php?t=446

    Cheers
    Mike
    Last edited by posixPilot; 05-26-2012 at 02:32 PM.
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    Ok, I've gotta ask. So who's the hen in your avatar?

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    That's Goog ... she is one of four hens that we keep as pets. She always tries to follow us into the house, because she knows that our kids are sloppy eaters and they drop all sorts of treats on the floor.

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    Cheers
    Mike
    Last edited by posixPilot; 05-27-2012 at 03:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by posixPilot View Post
    That's Goog ... she is one of four hens that we keep as pets. She always tries to follow us into the house, because she knows that our kids are sloppy eaters and they drop all sorts of treats on the floor.

    Cheers


    Mike
    OK, now I've gotta ask. How many people have asked you about the hen! LOL
    Is it OK to want to break something just so that you can weld it back together?

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