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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    ...CK has 17 and 26 torches that are practically the same size. But the cables are different to accommodate the different current limits of each torch. So if you wanted to use only one cable, make it a 26 and you could swap a 9 or 17 torch with no worries about overloading the cable. It would just not be as flexible as it could be for a small 9 torch. It all depends on what your priorities are. My advise is to use what comes with the machine for a while. See what type of work you do and you will have a better idea of what you need in terms of size, current, and cable length.
    hi rambozo, going back to what you said here, are you saying the CK 17 and 26 torches can be used interchangeable with the 26 cable? are the connectors that connects 17 and 26 torches to their cables the same size? only the cables are of different sizes? sorry, english is not my native language. i only moved to australia a few years back. so i may not be understanding you correctly or i may not be expressing myself correctly.
    Last edited by diyjer; 01-12-2018 at 02:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diyjer View Post
    hi alan, this is everyone's thread. the more (info) the merrier. i'm liking this community already
    I just wanted to make sure I wasn't stepping on your toes or replying to a message that was originally intended to you. Rambozo laid it out pretty good, he's very helpful here.

    Alan

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    Here's a little video I noticed that shows more on the differences between 17 versus 26 TIG torch hoses and Dinse connector, especially related to CK's Safe Loc stuff. It's a Mr. TIG one, which I always helpful.

    Everlast 210 EXT (2015)

    www.youtube.com/newjerusalemtimes

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    Christain,

    I have watched that and while it is true, what you point out above with the fitting to convert the connectors over to the proper end would work also, if someone did want to use the smaller/larger cable that is not the proper amps. Just like using a 150 amp cable on a 200 amp machine, the operator still needs to be aware that they should not run 200 amps through it, cause the machine won't know.

    This brings up another question, I'm curious if any of you have an overhead cable holder to help keep the cable off the ground and away from sparks? These flex cables look pretty durable but I'm pretty sure that hot sparks, slag or metal would burn through it. I don't want to test that to find out...

    Alan

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    Yeah,

    The point is, the one Safe Loc could work perfectly for both 17 and 26 hose/torch assemblies.

    Of course, either hose and torch assembly has a duty-cycle that can easily be exceeded by an operator with a 17 torch on a 200 amp or with a 17 and 26 torch using a 250 amp machine.

    I mean, I've smoked a 9 torch and 17 flex head torch, along with corkscrewing numerous standard-style collets, due to exceeding their duty-cycles, which has undoubtedly also exceeded the duty cycle of the hose/power cable assembly, even though I've never blown out a hose/power cable.

    I use a pigskin cover on my main torch, as it is easy for the hose alone to touch some hot metal and have a problem real quick. I mean, the ultra flex hose material is silicone, so it may be almost impervious to heat, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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    Last edited by christian; 01-12-2018 at 07:47 PM.
    Everlast 210 EXT (2015)

    www.youtube.com/newjerusalemtimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by diyjer View Post
    hi rambozo, going back to what you said here, are you saying the CK 17 and 26 torches can be used interchangeable with the 26 cable? are the connectors that connects 17 and 26 torches to their cables the same size? only the cables are of different sizes? sorry, english is not my native language. i only moved to australia a few years back. so i may not be understanding you correctly or i may not be expressing myself correctly.
    It appears not with the current CK line. While the 9 and 17 share a torch connector size, CGA-A (they even share the same cable) the 26 has a larger CGA-B fitting. Again there are adapters from Western and WeldCraft to allow this, but I don't see one from CK right off. So it won't be plug and play out of the box. The stock handle would also not likely fit. I have a mixture of some older products and some of those are interchangeable. I should have checked the current lineup before speaking up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    It appears not with the current CK line. While the 9 and 17 share a torch connector size, CGA-A (they even share the same cable) the 26 has a larger CGA-B fitting. Again there are adapters from Western and WeldCraft to allow this, but I don't see one from CK right off. So it won't be plug and play out of the box. The stock handle would also not likely fit. I have a mixture of some older products and some of those are interchangeable. I should have checked the current lineup before speaking up.
    Well, none of us can keep track of it all, and speaking for myself you have been really helpful in explaining some of this connector info. I appreciate it.

    Alan

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