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    One thing that will warm up the editing eraser is disrespect here. There is plenty of room for disagreement without hostility and disrespect among board members.

    This country was founded by people who disagreed but maintained mutual respect for each other. It is now being torn apart by people whose parents forgot to teach them about respect for others and only caring about themselves and their egos. We won't let this forum be a point of derision, hate, disrespect, or name calling to others.

    I believe that apologies are warranted, whether or not they are issued I will let the participating members decide for now. But I am strongly suggesting it. Everyone has to play nice in our sand box, for all concerned. Apology is a art form. Apology does not require a retraction of beliefs, only of rash or insensitive statements. Don't get me wrong, mercurial personalities are welcome, but we have children and a whole host of others from different countries and backgrounds on this board and that should always be kept in mind. This board is for helping others, chatting with others, and working through questions and issues, with welders from Everlast and other brands, and even sharing opinions, personal activities of leisure and lifestyle. If it gets derailed from those central themes, then it will collapse and lose the purpose for why it exists. Even Mike and I don't always agree on everything, but we keep it respectful and friendly, even if there is a bit of good natured ribbing between us. All members of the Everlast family, employees and customers should be able to find a common green thread around which they can harmonize their opinions, and that is the purpose here.
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    With regard to my purchase and use of an Everlast multi-function PU 205 I just can't come up with any negatives to satisfy the title question, "Where are all the negatives".
    I could mention the small problem I had with a too short spring in the original gas solenoid, but that comes out as a positive for the company.
    Alex told me how to fix it (took about 15 minutes to fix) and then sent me a new gas valve with correct spring just to be sure the problem was dealt with.

    For the money the machine is downright amazing. The ability to start and maintain an arc at low amps is something I do not have with my trusty Miller and P+H machines, good old rigs that they are. This Everlast will weld circles around them when doing that type of welding, which I seem to encounter quite often now. I noticed Jody Collier said the same thing about his 250Ex and he is someone who was a staunch Miller man until recently.

    The tig is great, especially now that I have fitted a small WP9 torch to the unit. It is as easy to make a nice tig weld with as the Lincoln 185 I have been using. I can't really say one machine is better than the other in tig function. I can tell you that my experience with Everlast sales department is 100 times better than dealing with the local Lincoln dealer (Linde) Last time I went there the counter sales person was so rude that someone should have filmed the ordeal as a sales training video, like the "how not to" ones that John Cleese made way back when.

    I put up photos of plasma cuts I've made with the machine using a few different methods. You can see the latest result in the thread "smooth Plasma cuts" in the Multi-function section.
    My friend Murray with the Hypertherm 30 is a bit gobstruck by an $800 tig/ stick welder that can switched over to Plasma and make cuts that are smoother than any he has made yet, plus cut through 3/4" where he is all done at 3/8".

    Now it just needs to last, but at least it has a long guarantee and a company behind the guarantee that understands how important it is to fix any problems that arise.
    I really haven't encountered this kind of philosphy for some time now. Often times the attitude is "if a machine we sold is not working it must be your fault, period"

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    Worn,

    I believe Jody is still a staunch Miller man, but he has room in his heart for others as well.

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    "Thank You" to the folks who took the time to post useful input. Like I said earlier I was just sitting on the fence and I needed some coaxing to make the purchase. Without the feedback I would still be sitting on that fence. I look forward to actually working with the equipment. I will post my findings once the unit is here.

    In the meantime I will probably fabricate a jig for my CNC machine. It would be nice if I had some dimensional drawings for the torch. Has anyone done any precision measurements of the torch?
    Last edited by generatorlabs; 07-01-2010 at 01:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generatorlabs View Post
    "Thank You" to the folks who took the time out for their useful input. Like I said earlier I was just sitting on the fence and I needed some coaxing to make the purchase. Without the feedback I would still be sitting on that fence. I look forward to actually working with the equipment. I will post my findings once the unit is here.

    In the meantime I will probably fabricate a jig for my CNC machine. It would be nice if I had some dimensional drawings for the torch. Has anyone done any precision measurements of the torch?
    I made my own holder for the S45 the hole is slightly less tha 1 inch, don't drill a 1 inch hole as it will be too sloppy for a snug fit , I don't have the dimensions as I'm away from home. What CNC machine are you fitting yours to, mine is the torchmate 2 X 2

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    Well my CNC is a 3 x 3 built from scratch. I bought some plans from PDJ and used those to gather ideas. Between the plans from PDJ and the various threads floating around the internet I was able to weld together a beautiful machine. I built it with some really nice balls screws that I also ordered from PDJ. Coincidentally (yes a total coincidence, as I had my machine over a year before I heard about Everlast) I painted it the same color as the Everlast cabinet so they will look nice together. Right now it has a custom holder for my Porter Cable router but I was thinking to design a circular plate that I could fit in the place of the router to hold the torch on the Z axis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generatorlabs View Post
    Well my CNC is a 3 x 3 built from scratch. I bought some plans from PDJ and used those to gather ideas. Between the plans from PDJ and the various threads floating around the internet I was able to weld together a beautiful machine. I built it with some really nice balls screws that I also ordered from PDJ. Coincidentally (yes a total coincidence, as I had my machine over a year before I heard about Everlast) I painted it the same color as the Everlast cabinet so they will look nice together. Right now it has a custom holder for my Porter Cable router but I was thinking to design a circular plate that I could fit in the place of the router to hold the torch on the Z axis.
    3 x 3 soumds like a great size, 9 sq. feet is 2 & 1/4 times my 2 x 2 and the 3 foot length is right near the upper limit for a ball screw length but certainly do-able. I got mine for a learning experience and making a few parts for Bobcat attachments that kinda thing. A circular plate should be okay as long as you remember to keep the hole snug, the first one(holder) I built was drilled to 1 inch and that is too sloppy, if my memory is correct then I believe I drilled 7/8 and bored to about 24.5 mm,or something like that and eyeballed the angle for the chamfer for a nice snug fit on the nozzle. there is a quick way to make a holder, if you don't have a lathe, get an extra cone end and JB weld it into a one inch hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generatorlabs View Post
    "Thank You" to the folks who took the time to post useful input. Like I said earlier I was just sitting on the fence and I needed some coaxing to make the purchase. Without the feedback I would still be sitting on that fence. I look forward to actually working with the equipment. I will post my findings once the unit is here.

    In the meantime I will probably fabricate a jig for my CNC machine. It would be nice if I had some dimensional drawings for the torch. Has anyone done any precision measurements of the torch?
    Generator,
    I received my PP256 June 3rd and am very impressed with the quality and functioning of this machine, but more on that later.
    These are measurements of the WSD-60P plasma torch that came with it.
    The diameter of the plastic torch head just above the ceramic cone is around 1.22"(nominal 31.0 mm) with a good 1/2" of straight cylindrical length.
    Below that, the total length of the ceramic cone and metal tip (including small stand-off distance) is around1.16" or 29.5mm. The cylindrical portion of the ceramic cone diameter is 1.02" or 26.0mm.
    As to any negatives, I did have to remove the cover to tighten the HF pilot terminal on the front panel. But my biggest gripe is that I had to wait three weeks for shipment, having placed my order May 3rd and informed at that time, they were out of stock but "on the way". It seemed like a long 3 weeks (4 weeks including UPS time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyfarmer View Post
    My biggest gripe is that I had to wait three weeks for shipment, having placed my order May 3rd and informed at that time, they were out of stock but "on the way". It seemed like a long 3 weeks (4 weeks including UPS time).
    Yeah I found the lead time unusually long too. However they told me up front it would take two weeks so I agreed to it. I think that is funny because they have ebay auctions that show more than 10 available for sale. A few days ago a rep from Everlast told me they had to update their auctions however even as I type this there is another up there that says 10 available. Hmmm??


    I hope they can deliver in the time frame proposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generatorlabs View Post
    Yeah I found the lead time unusually long too. However they told me up front it would take two weeks so I agreed to it. I think that is funny because they have ebay auctions that show more than 10 available for sale. A few days ago a rep from Everlast told me they had to update their auctions however even as I type this there is another up there that says 10 available. Hmmm??


    I hope they can deliver in the time frame proposed.
    Yes, I agree, this type of conflicting communication does not help ease the customers peace of mind.
    BTW, if you would like to see an image of the plasma torch that came with my PP256, look at the one pictured for the "Power Plasma 60"(on the Everlast website), as the one shown currently for the PP256, is not the style of the one I have and gave you dimensions for. Maybe you should wait for your package to arrive to be sure of the style of torch.
    Also, I'm waiting for some plasma consumables that were part of the original order price/package agreement by Alex. I'm told they're out of stock, but should arrive July 8th. I'm hoping that they match my plasma torch style.

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