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    Default Evolution cold saw???

    Anyone ever use one??? I never heard of evolution before, but sounds like they are out there. I was wanting to pick up a chop saw and ran across the cold saws (ones that use a steel blade instead of a abrasive blade.) The biggest problem is the cold saw blades are expensive. Starting price is about $400 and go way up. The Rage 2 had a price close to $300 a few years ago and now I see them on sale for under $200. Blades are expensive, but they last a lot longer than abrasive blades, as long as you are easy on them. Most damage is from forcing the cut. A lot less mess and cleaner cut than a abrasive blade. The reviews are considerably better than abrasive saws.

    I can't find anyone who stocks them. Order only.

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    Sears used too. Think HD did at one time too.

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    I got the Northern Tool version a year or two ago. Posted a review here as well. I've been super happy with it. Still on the original blade, but it has taken some damage. Picked up a new blade from Amazon, but have yet to try it. No looking back at the abrasive chop saw it replaced. Still keep that around for trash cutting or something hardened, but maybe use it once a year. I liked that the vise jaws are cast iron instead of stamped steel, and the base is diecast aluminum. This is not really a cold saw, I see most use the label "dry cut saw" A true cold saw like a Scotchman runs with coolant and spins super slow, like under 100 rpm. These are carbide tipped and spin around 1000 rpm. Still almost as burr free, and very little heat in the part. The best thing has to be the lack of abrasive dust. Get one, you'll be glad you did.
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    If you search the Everlast forum for rage, dry cut, cold cut and evolution (upper right corner). You should find a lot of info as well as the northern review.
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    I have one and like it a lot!

    Beats my old DeWalt hands down.

    Yes, the blades are expensive but they are resharpen-able also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Caron View Post
    Yes, the blades are expensive but they are resharpen-able also.
    I have heard resharpenable, but the problem I hear is broken teeth. Forcing the blade too hard into the metal or having the piece come loose and doing damage to the blade. (not falling free or not clamped down well)

    BTW I had a guy say the blades last longer if you start the cut on a corner, not on a flat side.
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    Yes, Broken teeth are the big killer. The shop I use can replace and resharpen 3 teeth and still come out cheaper than a new blade. Anymore than 3 and just toss it.

    And yes, always start on an edge or corner. Starting/finishing on the flat just burns them up quicker..
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    I too bought that Northern "dry cut" saw 3-4yrs ago. I've been really happy with it but ever since I cut some 18ga SS channel, it never cut the same. I ruined the blade by doing that I now see.

    Good news is, the cost of a Diablo Cermet II blade has come down so much (@$85) and with that in it, I'm now cutting better than ever! I'm not sure these would be resharnenable though. There are So Many angles on the alternating teeth, I'm sue the set-up for each of them would make it too expensive compared with new.

    Here's an Excellent video on proper clamping for longevity; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DYRWDVquo

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    I've been happy with the Rage 3 DB for the last two years. The slide action eliminates those clamp angle issues and you can quickly change angles with no tools or measuring.
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    check with your local saw shop, mine only charges $40 dollars to sharpen mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster View Post
    Here's an Excellent video on proper clamping for longevity; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DYRWDVquo
    Nice video. Does anyone know where to get a vise block that has the V notch like in the video??? Sure looks like it has a better grip to it.
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