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    Default 325EXT Triangular Wave???

    I was welding with my 325EXT in triangular wave and the most I could get it to weld was 176 Amps I tried single phase the same as three phase 176 Amps. So I tried all the rest and the same see list below this what the reading was on the machine. So single phase 240V or 3 phase 240V makes no difference plus or minus 1 or 2 amps is nothing, I thought in 3 phase it would be the higher. Still waiting from Everlast Canada. Now I am using the new E3 tungsten and it works very well and triangular wave work very well upside down on aluminum.

    3 Phase
    Advance square and it got to 320 Amps
    Sine wave it got to 220 Amps
    Soft square it got to 209 Amps
    Triangular wave it got to 176 Amps
    DC it got to 321 Amps

    Single Phase
    Advance square and it got to 320 Amps
    Sine wave it got to 221 Amps
    Soft square it got to 208 Amps
    Triangular wave it got to 175 Amps
    DC it got to 321 Amps
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    You have to realize that readouts on digital meters are "tuned" or derived based on a certain type of wave form. Different wave forms read differently on a meter. Reading on a digital meter, including the one on the unit will offer innacurate or "averaged" view of the amps, not the peaks of the wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    You have to realize that readouts on digital meters are "tuned" or derived based on a certain type of wave form. Different wave forms read differently on a meter. Reading on a digital meter, including the one on the unit will offer innacurate or "averaged" view of the amps, not the peaks of the wave.
    Mark
    I can only weld 3/16 aluminum plate just with the pedal all the way to the floor. 1/4 inch plate I can not weld with the 325 EXT in Triangular wave. on Advance square at 320 Amps I can weld 1/2 inch aluminum easily.
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    That is because it is only at the peak for a tiny, tiny amount of time. Triangular is for thin metals because of this. Turn down the Hertz to 50 or so if you want to see more heat.

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    Also go to 20% or less on balance.

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    Send me an email on your exact amps you get at max and your experience and I'll discuss it further with the factory. But I think the main issue is that is the nature of the Triangular wave. It cools rapidly.

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    Well I set the AC Balance to 20 and the AC Hz to 40 and i just was able to weld 1/4 aluminum plate. The reason I want to use the Triangular wave is to weld parts onto a boat upside down and it works well on the thinner parts so far. Using the E3 tungsten helps also better then 2% lanthanated it keeps a stable arc and not ball up as much on the end and has a nice clean round ball on the end of the point.
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    This is where I'd use the advanced pulse.

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    also if ya need triangle, but more juice. then add helium


    Barry

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    It was easier to use a friend Miller Dynasty 350 to do the job I like my 325EXT I will just wait and see what the Everlast factory has to say. The advance pule does not give a nice weld, all is done using the Dynasty very nice machine but $12,000 is a lot of money for a welder.
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    I can't send or receive any emails right now. I've had an on/off issue about two weeks. I've told Oleg about it, but he hasn't done anything about it as far as I can tell. Frustrating for me.

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    Like I said I will just have to wait till you hear something from the Everlast factory frustrated is a good word for waiting for replies that take a long time.
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    I am curious as to what they tell you about this.
    Long arc, short arc, heliarc and in-the-dark!

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    Yeah,

    I like the Triangle wave on my unit for its narrow and penetrating beads for lighter stuff. But, it doesn't "bring the heat" like the Squarewave.

    It's interesting though, Kempy, how you're apparently finding use for it in some interesting position welding.
    Last edited by christian; 02-01-2017 at 05:41 PM.
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    That with 1/8 or 3/32 electrode? At 3/16 yeah both will work plenty fine, just for me I've noticed on triangle 3/32 goes deeper, 1/8 tries to spread heat out wide. Once I was lazy on thin stuff and left 1/8 in torch and turned sheet into solder before I could get a puddle! Haha pulse and tri it went blap blap! nothing so I held tad longer, then blap blap! And I was left with no corner on sheet and a puddle'o'aluminum!


    Barry

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    Well it has been over 2 months since I posted the problem on 01/08/2017 about the triangular wave and now it is 03/13/2017 and still have not heard anything from Everlast U.S.A. or Everlast Canada on what to do.
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    It would be nice if another 325EXT user could replicate this to see if it's an issue with your machine or something in the design.
    Long arc, short arc, heliarc and in-the-dark!

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    Well I am going to Lincoln next week to see their Aspect 375 Welder the Miller is out to lunch with theirs at almost $16,000.00 with taxes if I have too I will have the 325EXT as a backup, the Lincoln has a 5 year warranty and that will last the duration of the job I have now to do for Ford making 2017 GT oil tanks.

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    Last edited by Kempy; 03-20-2017 at 08:03 PM. Reason: none
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    Beautiful work making the oil tanks Kempy.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    used a 375 aspect this winter at a trade show....liked it alot ..could have bought it for 5600.00......friend of mine made the fuel cell for a gt-40 was really sharp....i make reservoir tanks for intercoolers.
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