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ID:	13421Found my problem Zoama....I hooked my steel whip up and pulled the trigger...almost blew my wig off....TONS a argon flo...Hooked the spool gun back up an heard the wind coming from euro connector....The barbed connector from the gas line had burnt(as in melted..lol) from the main stub on the euro...gta bare wire in there too........From the Get go it wasnt shielding...once i went WFO on the argon..it welded sweet for 4 beads...My nozzle is the same...I pulled the ring forward..and the diffuser body blocked the rest of the suction issue as I saw it.....This bites...My machine is rock solid....My gun ???All I needs the barb fitting and forward to fix my deal.....Mark...Got some spare spool gun parts???lol
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ID:	13421Found my problem Zoama....I hooked my steel whip up and pulled the trigger...almost blew my wig off....TONS a argon flo...Hooked the spool gun back up an heard the wind coming from euro connector....The barbed connector from the gas line had burnt(as in melted..lol) from the main stub on the euro...gta bare wire in there too........From the Get go it wasnt shielding...once i went WFO on the argon..it welded sweet for 4 beads...My nozzle is the same...I pulled the ring forward..and the diffuser body blocked the rest of the suction issue as I saw it.....This bites...My machine is rock solid....My gun ???All I needs the barb fitting and forward to fix my deal.....Mark...Got some spare spool gun parts???lol
    I just opened my euro connector and it looked fine other than a zip tie mashing the argon tube almost flat.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    I just opened my euro connector and it looked fine other than a zip tie mashing the argon tube almost flat.
    LOL...Imagine that.....Thank god my machine not like this......

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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    LOL...Imagine that.....Thank god my machine not like this......

    Could you please post a pic or two of your aluminum welds with the 200n so I'll have something to compare mine to?
    I got a few usable welds with 4043 but I can't run 5356 at any setting.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    Could you please post a pic or two of your aluminum welds with the 200n so I'll have something to compare mine to?
    I got a few usable welds with 4043 but I can't run 5356 at any setting.
    I puta teflon liner in my 10' benzel that came with the machine....it feeds/welds 5356 fine....heres 4043 out of the SG...plate was hot hot ..lol....21.5v..355 ipm ....argon wide open....thats when I knew something was wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    I puta teflon liner in my 10' benzel that came with the machine....it feeds/welds 5356 fine....heres 4043 out of the SG...plate was hot hot ..lol....21.5v..355 ipm ....argon wide open....thats when I knew something was wrong...
    So the soot is normal?
    Is the wire speed measured or just set on the panel?
    Anything on the inductance/arc force setting?
    Would the same settings run 5356?
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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ID:	13424"some" soot is normal...Usally means ur NOT quit there yet..
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    "Some" soot is ok..& unavoidable...What you see I caused.....Notice the soot bands on top side of welds...Because of faulty argon flo..AND i wasn't holding the gun 90 degrees..You have sooting on the top side of both..hardly any at the bottom....5356 shuld spray at those numbers...your always gona have to "tweak" it a little...Wire feed is on the panel with the 200....remote function is only with MTS units..An I think the 250 & up..class machines...Didn't get to the point of inductance..gun smoked just as I was dialing in....Im not worried about the gun...In my exp..Everlast has takin care of ALL(all 2)..my equip issues..Yea..Only 2 in 4 years I think...Big deal....LOL...Here's lincoln 5P+++ & tractor supply 1/8 7018..An .023 hard wire..Click image for larger version. 

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    OK..After stellar support from Andrew..The SG200 is back in action...Put in the new connector & rewired it .. .035 4043 lincioln...040 tip..21,5 & 360 (my start at work) 30/35 cfh......1/4" plate...First pull of the triigger.....It's real close...LOL..amazing what shielding gas will do....lmaoClick image for larger version. 

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ID:	13431 I'll send more pics when I get it rollin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    OK..After stellar support from Andrew..The SG200 is back in action...Put in the new connector & rewired it .. .035 4043 lincioln...040 tip..21,5 & 360 (my start at work) 30/35 cfh......1/4" plate...First pull of the triigger.....It's real close...LOL..amazing what shielding gas will do....lmao I'll send more pics when I get it rollin....
    If you use any 5356 a picture of that along with settings would help me get motivated.... thanks.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    If you use any 5356 a picture of that along with settings would help me get motivated.... thanks.
    OK Z...21,3...393...035 5356... .040 tip....35/40 cfh

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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    OK Z...21,3...393...035 5356... .040 tip....35/40 cfh
    I've been trying again but I get a lot of white smoke and everything within a foot of the weld gets covered in white/grey residue. 1/4" 6061 plate, .035 5356 wire, argon maxed out at 31 cfh. Tested 20.5v to 21.5v in .2 steps. Voltage or wire speed made no difference in the look of the weld. Every bead looks a little colder than yours but covered in brown/white soot an lined with a million tiny BBs on each side. No cathodic etching. Last time I tested .045 wire I got the same consistent mess.
    I think it'll be a while before I can get that stinking fog on me again. Thanks for your help.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Been my exp...when ur throwin dust n BB's ...thats a gas problem..explain what you mean by MAXD out Z..Id check for a restriction...????...PLUS.....Stickout is critical....Change it up as ur running..and listen for it to change sounds & appearance..My settings yesterday had a workable stickout of an inch...give or take...Plus...I generally weld hotter than most....The pics I sent are border line TOOO Hot...For some reason my camera phone makes um look like crap....In person there much different looking.....The camera makes it look cold n lumpy...It really exaggerates the look.....Hope this helps
    Last edited by stretch; 06-06-2016 at 09:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    Been my exp...when ur throwin dust n BB's ...thats a gas problem..explain what you mean by MAXD out Z..Id check for a restriction...????...PLUS.....Stickout is critical....Change it up as ur running..and listen for it to change sounds & appearance..My settings yesterday had a workable stickout of an inch...give or take...Plus...I generally weld hotter than most....The pics I sent are border line TOOO Hot...For some reason my camera phone makes um look like crap....In person there much different looking.....The camera makes it look cold n lumpy...It really exaggerates the look.....Hope this helps
    I opened the flow meter all the way and that's all it would do. The bottle is at about 500 psi now. I tig weld from the same gas bottle with no problems and couldn't find any other restrictions.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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