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    PowerMTS 251Si

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ID:	13082 now it come with it, sell the MTS250S and get a PowerMTS 251Si and then I don't have to drag the big extra box around. Have to call Duncan and look at the new PowerMTS 251Si.
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    Since "fan on demand" seems to be as popular as high duty cycle, maybe we could have the best of both by making it switchable. You'd have high duty cycle when needed and quiet when you're doing light work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    Since "fan on demand" seems to be as popular as high duty cycle, maybe we could have the best of both by making it switchable. You'd have high duty cycle when needed and quiet when you're doing light work.
    Seems like some of the newer models have much quieter fans, so it might not be much of an issue anymore.
    About the only time I can see it being nice is while tacking something up, where you might be doing a lot of cutting and fitting and don't want to shut the welder off between tacks or listen to the fan drone in the background. If there was a thermal switch set really low, it would have little to no impact on duty cycle but could shut the fan off when the machine is idle. Of course that also adds something that could fail, so I can see the case for not having it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    Seems like some of the newer models have much quieter fans, so it might not be much of an issue anymore.
    About the only time I can see it being nice is while tacking something up, where you might be doing a lot of cutting and fitting and don't want to shut the welder off between tacks or listen to the fan drone in the background. If there was a thermal switch set really low, it would have little to no impact on duty cycle but could shut the fan off when the machine is idle. Of course that also adds something that could fail, so I can see the case for not having it.

    Rambozo, you are right about that...though with several machines we have 4 smaller fans. much quieter.

    Since when did the welding community become such softies? Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Rambozo, you are right about that...though with several machines we have 4 smaller fans. much quieter.

    Since when did the welding community become such softies? Lol.
    I agree, I like it when its quiet enough for me to hear the fan. I will say that my MM200 has fan on demand and I purchased it in 1988 new. I have pushed it very hard at times and do not ever remember when the thermals kicked it out for overheating . But if my biggest complaint on an Everlast machine is the loud fan then I would keep it to myself.
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    My new mts211si is not loud at all IMHO. It seems to move a lot of air too.

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    When you have no other background noise any machine fan is noisey, I have a 210ext and wc300 combo, one of the mates reckons its louder than the local watering hole cool rooms up the road...that he had just stumbled from (a good thing as he had his car parked there and wanted a ride home)
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    I am gonna have to keep an eye out on the new models.. I went from an analog to a digital and would not even think twice about going back..
    Jason
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    Gee,

    My 210 Ext (2015) is whisper quiet. The 2015 version has four fans, which make it very quiet and not loud at all.

    If you have the earlier 210 EXT, can you tells us how many fans it has?

    Maybe your torch water cooler is the loudness culprit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    I went from an analog to a digital and would not even think twice about going back..
    So why is your avatar an analog machine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    So why is your avatar an analog machine?
    Saw that also, but did not want to comment. But, since you did......

    I have a 210EXT and 255EXT. Both are fine machines, but I would not think twice about the 250EX or 200DX. They all weld the same for me. I miss seeing the knobs myself.
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    Well speaking of 2016 machines...a few are out now and have been slowly phased in. We've kept it low profile since they are selling out so fast with even the minimal chatter...which tells us that they are indeed spot on what we were intending.

    Mike,
    The knobs are still here, but they are now digitally controlled.
    What we have now in digital that was previously analog controlled but with analog inputs afaik.

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    This really does improves parts commonality, and modularity between units which should not only improve reliability but simplifies the units to improve repair times. People think often in terms that analog is simpler. It is but it isn't from a standpoint of reduced wiring needed as discreet circuitry is reduced into a common board and these circuit functions are controlled and replaced by a processor. Now, for a guy who likes to poke around in old fashioned electronics, this may be a heart breaker, but for the average guy, this is a less cumbersome, easier to understand approach.
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    Hey Mark, hope you N and A are doing well,

    Shoot, I would trade my 255ext or 210ext for that unit. I just like the knobs, could care less on the analog or digital inside. But sure digital will be easier to work on. Maybe help Ray out too.

    My new Imig200, with my old spool gun will not fix for some reason (waiting on Oleg to get back to me on a swap), do you know if it's digital. Maybe 2 months old. I have used it but not opened it. But looks nothing like the old one.
    Mike R.
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    FYI: PP50, PP80, IMIG-200, IMIG-250P, 210EXT and 255EXT.

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    Yes, it is digital with analog controls.

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    Does the new i-TIG have AC? I need a new TIG and plasma cutter. Still happy with my I-MIG200. Unless you guys have a trade in policy.
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    The Power i-TIG line is DC, the PowerTIG line is AC/DC.
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    Does the new 250EX have a 120 volt plug on it for a U.S.A. tig cooler on it or does it still only come with a 220v plug. Also is it capable of welding with 6010 rod?
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    2014 Everlast PP60S plasma
    thermal arc 250 GTS inverter
    2016 Everlast 250EX
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    2015 Everlast MTS250S
    Miller 30A spool Gun
    Miller xtreme 12VS wire feeder
    Linde CM 85 shape cutter

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    If there is a 2016 250EX available, I'll take one.

    Email me a invoice for PayPal: 225@redstickmoto.com
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    ........ Nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    ........ Nothing?
    call them that the normal way of buying something
    Miller 302 gas drive
    millermatic 200 mig
    miller spoolmatic 3 spool gun with 100ft ext.
    2014 Everlast PP60S plasma
    thermal arc 250 GTS inverter
    2016 Everlast 250EX
    miller tig cooler
    2015 Everlast MTS250S
    Miller 30A spool Gun
    Miller xtreme 12VS wire feeder
    Linde CM 85 shape cutter

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