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    Looking to upgrade from my Lincoln 175 plus mig welder. If I go with Miller, I want the Millermatic 212. Which Everlast mig welder is the closest comparable? Any help would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckmaster View Post
    Looking to upgrade from my Lincoln 175 plus mig welder. If I go with Miller, I want the Millermatic 212. Which Everlast mig welder is the closest comparable? Any help would be appreciated.
    I use a IMIG-200, IMIG-205P and IMIG-250P. The IMIG-200 is light in weight, runs on less than 30 amps.. What are you looking to weld with it? How thick?
    Mike R.
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    877-755-9353 x203
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    FYI: PP50, PP80, IMIG-200, IMIG-250P, 210EXT and 255EXT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    The IMIG-200 is light weight
    I believe you mean this to say "The IMIG 200 is comparatively light, at 35 (or so) pounds" and not the derogatory "won't hold up". Right?! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    I believe you mean this to say "The IMIG 200 is comparatively light, at 35 (or so) pounds" and not the derogatory "won't hold up". Right?! :-)
    Of course. I brag about mine all the time.
    Mike R.
    Email: admineverlast@everlastwelders.com
    www.everlastgenerators.com
    www.everlastwelders.com
    877-755-9353 x203
    M-F 12 - 7PM PST
    FYI: PP50, PP80, IMIG-200, IMIG-250P, 210EXT and 255EXT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    I use a IMIG-200, IMIG-205P and IMIG-250P. The IMIG-200 is light in weight, runs on less than 30 amps.. What are you looking to weld with it? How thick?
    Thanks for the reply. I am looking to to weld 3/8" steel & Aluminum. Don't care about the weight, it will be on a cart dedicated to the shop. Quick and easy changed from steel to aluminum is important, along with a long reach. Will be used in a light fab shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckmaster View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I am looking to to weld 3/8" steel & Aluminum. Don't care about the weight, it will be on a cart dedicated to the shop. Quick and easy changed from steel to aluminum is important, along with a long reach. Will be used in a light fab shop.
    The IMIG 250P will do that with ease. I added a 20' profax gun for longer reach and made a hanger for my leads.
    I've since changed the MIG gun's front end parts from 21 style to 23 style that comes on the "HD" gun because the screw on nozzles stay centered. The work clamp pictured is made by Stronghand.
    You can use a spoolgun for aluminum and the machine also stick welds.
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    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    The IMIG 250P will do that with ease. I added a 20' profax gun for longer reach and made a hanger for my leads.
    I've since changed the MIG gun's front end parts from 21 style to 23 style that comes on the "HD" gun because the screw on nozzles stay centered. The work clamp pictured is made by Stronghand.
    You can use a spoolgun for aluminum and the machine also stick welds.
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    Thank you! Very nice set up. Do you have any problem with thin metal 1/16", 1/8" ? The price $1200 is creeping up toward the millermatic 212 @ $1730. I have the Plasma 60S, love it. Thinking of buying the PowerTIG 200DX. Figure I buy me a good mig, I would be set. The Power i-MIG 205 might be enough mig for me, but it just don't seem much more of an upgrade from my licoln 175plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckmaster View Post
    Thank you! Very nice set up. Do you have any problem with thin metal 1/16", 1/8" ? The price $1200 is creeping up toward the millermatic 212 @ $1730. I have the Plasma 60S, love it. Thinking of buying the PowerTIG 200DX. Figure I buy me a good mig, I would be set. The Power i-MIG 205 might be enough mig for me, but it just don't seem much more of an upgrade from my licoln 175plus.
    If you are not going to be mobile. 205P or 205. You can still pick them up but need a little more generator. I also have a 250P, like Zoama, would never part with. Our MIGs are a little pricey, but all of our products are great welders, it just cost more to make a good MIG.

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    Mike R.
    Email: admineverlast@everlastwelders.com
    www.everlastgenerators.com
    www.everlastwelders.com
    877-755-9353 x203
    M-F 12 - 7PM PST
    FYI: PP50, PP80, IMIG-200, IMIG-250P, 210EXT and 255EXT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    If you are not going to be mobile. 205P or 205. You can still pick them up but need a little more generator. I also have a 250P, like Zoama, would never part with. Our MIGs are a little pricey, but all of our products are great welders, it just cost more to make a good MIG.

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    I agree, you get what you pay for. Or at less you hope you do. Might try to see if I can get a package deal on the Power i-MIG 250P and the PowerTIG 200DX.

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    The 250 is actually a better choice for the average customer. It has spot and stitch timer along with burn back and arc force control. The 250P's shortfall is that it does not have a synergic and double pulse. It's manually set, and for the average person too difficult to set correctly.

    I'd look at the 205. It is portable and will work well about anywhere you have 240V available. The unit would be more in line with the 212 performance except the 212 has a larger maximum roll diameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    The 250 is actually a better choice for the average customer. It has spot and stitch timer along with burn back and arc force control. The 250P's shortfall is that it does not have a synergic and double pulse. It's manually set, and for the average person too difficult to set correctly.

    I'd look at the 205. It is portable and will work well about anywhere you have 240V available. The unit would be more in line with the 212 performance except the 212 has a larger maximum roll diameter.
    Thanks Mark. I think I ruled out the 205. Looking for more of a dedicated shop Mig. Double pulse is a very nice feature on a machine. Will need to set down tonight and look at all the Migs in my price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckmaster View Post
    Thank you! Very nice set up. Do you have any problem with thin metal 1/16", 1/8" ? The price $1200 is creeping up toward the millermatic 212 @ $1730. I have the Plasma 60S, love it. Thinking of buying the PowerTIG 200DX. Figure I buy me a good mig, I would be set. The Power i-MIG 205 might be enough mig for me, but it just don't seem much more of an upgrade from my licoln 175plus.
    I only run .035 wire on it so 14 ga is the thinnest I've welded with this machine but it was no problem. 11 ga and thicker is a breeze.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    I only run .035 wire on it so 14 ga is the thinnest I've welded with this machine but it was no problem. 11 ga and thicker is a breeze.
    Thank you. I need to do a little more research.

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    Sure wished the 250p had Spot and Stitch. Hmm, while I am wishing, like to be taller.

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    The standard 250 does have it. Now I think you misunderstood what I said from your earlier comment...or I misunderstood your statement. The 250P is a single pulse not a double one and does not make the stepped look that people think of with a slow pulse on a TIG. (Stack o' Dimes) And again, it is difficult to set unless you know what you are doing.

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    Thanks Mark. I understand the differance between the two. Went and played with a Millermatic 212 today. The On Gun Demand is a very sweet feature. Both guns are hooked up,and you just grab the gun you want and pull the trigger, steel or aluminum, sure is a great feature. Tough decision. The 250P is a lot more machine, with more options. Especially when it come to keeping the heat away from the aluminum. The Millermatic 212 is dumbed down for the weekend worror. But very clean and thought out.

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    I ruled out the IMIG-250P after finding out there is no spool gun available, and I would have to change out one roll of wire to the other to switch from steel to aluminum. Not crazy at all about pushing aluminum wire. So I am considering the IMIG-250. Would it be possible to have both the mig gun and the spool gun connected at the same time, running the spool gun argon line to the regulated argon tank. Just turning the argon on and plugging the spool gun into the port since there is no toggle switch from mig to aluminum? Will any of the other brand spool guns work with the IMIG-250?
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    Yes there is a spool gun available. Who said that? Same gun is used on 250 and 250P. Zoama even talked about it himself. The older models did not have a spool gun capability, but since the last 3 or 4 years they have. In fact you can see the spool gun connected to the plug in Mike's photo above with the denim cover. But, You cannot have the connected at the same time. They use the same connection point using the Euro connector. It literally takes 60 seconds to change the gun out...no tools required.

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    What I want to get away from is the setup my old Lincoln 175 mig has. I have to cut the wire, pull out the mig gun, replace it with the spool gun. store the mig gun. Then when I want to go back to steel, switch them back, rethread the wire. seems simple, pain in the @$$. I must of been looking at an old post on the IMIG250P.

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    This won't get you there. But the Euro connection is much faster and easier than Miller or Lincoln's standard setup. The wire doesn't have to be cut, it can just be rolled back with a few easy turns on the wire spool after you release the tension. The wire never has to leave the wire feeder due to the design...and it stays threaded. Never thought of it as a pain for sure...fairly quick and simple.

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