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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Cheap imports like Snap On, Hobart, and HTP and host of others respectable companies?
    uh yea, snap-on equals overpriced junk owned a 40amp one about 10yrs ago it was apos, Hobart plasma cutters were underpowered junk and everyone knows that, havent seen enough of htp, but I've at least heard good things about their customer support and warranty. Are their new units using trafimet torches?

    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Hafnium Yes! Our consumables use hafnium manufactured by Haas. Bet no one over on the black side told you that.
    could care less what screw machine the halfnium inserts are made in, and in my trade, Haas machines are throw away junk, yep Haas are not that good in the machine trade world.. I replaced spindles in 3 of them that were 2 yrs old, then we sold them and bought new Leblond high speed machining centers and an Okk. Bet no one on the green side has told you that about Haas machines...

    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    1400.00 on the cheap from Victor versus less than a grand for a PP 60? Your math must be fuzzy. If you want free shipping go to Amazon prime: 899.00 shipped.
    TD doesn't offer free shipping to a repair center either if you have to make a repair.
    I take my machine back to where I bought it and they take care of it. I also have a regional service center about 20miles from me, they also happen to service thermal dynamics units, the service rep told me himself, Dan was a nice guy.


    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    BUT....We do cover shipping both ways for 30 days. Most deaths of electronics happen soon after you start using them. On CNC this would be ferreted out pretty quickly. Infant death is part of the electronics industry for everyone.
    it is to a point, but at 30 days your covering shipping issues, electronics will usually go within the first year of operation...

    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Take the cover off the unit and photograph the internals for a True "made in" picture if you want to be honest.
    show me any electronic component that doesnt have Japanese, German, and Chinese components in it.


    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Glad you liked the TA 211i, since that's the the basic unit we were selling 2 years before they started selling it. Pictures of it and the manuals are still on our site.
    I bet Everlast use cheaper components and hardware on their units, things such as mig gun, tig torch (if even supplied with the unit), ground clamp, chinese regulator, probably cheaper wiring, rotary dials, and switches. I'll take the victor technologies components any day, I love that tweco gun, and victor regulator, the tweco hood was ok, it worked pretty good and had good clarity I think the headgear will be lacking over time though..I wish I wouldnt have bought the tig torch that come with the machine though, I like the ck17 torch much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    And the cutmaster 42 is made in China, and most of the 52, and all the others...You can't get around that fact.
    My new cutmaster 52 was not made in China. where are Everlast units made, and where are the consumables made, and where are the other components made?

    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Our ratings on our units are conservative, intentionally. Duty Cycle has nothing to do with it. I have videos of our units cutting thousands of 1" diameter holes in plate all day long for days during non stop testing.
    If duty cycle has nothing to do with it then video it making a 10ft long cut in 3/4" plate and show us the results..

    Luggy I know you get paid to defend Everlast, its understandable.. Thats why I figured when I posted my original reply being truthful about consumable life you would be quick to retort and defend what your employer is selling.

    Why does Everlast have to pay for a sponsored section with moderator rights in other forums, hiding something? Why does Everlast have half of every page taken up with stickied posts? Why does Everlast delete negative posts from their own customers? You want to be truthful, then be truthful, you sound like a politician.

    included pictures: individual consumable packages, havent opened them yet, my torch came loaded.. you can see a tip in one of the pictures, you cant see the electrodes the package is in the way. I had the shield cup out of package making a torch mount for it, I can get a picture of it also if you need one.
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