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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Well here you go: https://www.google.com/search?q=squa...utf-8&oe=utf-8
    No, no nerve touched here. But don't expect a pass when you've made some inaccurate statements.

    Yes, a nerve was struck on your end, not mine. Nothing innacurate about everlast being a hobby welder at best. As for your link, anything new used beat on or old as dirt will have a few bad apples, perhaps you should, being a everlast pusher know this more than anyone... Your very forum with all the "my welder wont do this or that" should show you where reliability stands with these things. Go to a real welder site and you will see a few posts about issues but nothing like these things...
    But seriously, let's be honest, YOU threw it away. They aren't throw away welders! The older Everlast welders are repairable and fixable, much more so than other machines in it's class in general. The boards are repairable as well. You are making a statement that is easily something that can be seen through. We use NAME brand components and the part numbers are usually right on the welder. We offer upgrades to the existing pedals and have for some time, with SSC controls. We also have improved our pedals and haven't had that pedal in seveal years, but most if they had an issue were fixable, and there were threads here on how to do so.

    I threw it away simply because I couldnt deal with the constant downtime from the welder. I had a decision to make, fix the board and I still have to update the torch, pedal, etc.. or buy something tried and true. The instant you open the box and see the "manual" its clear as day exactly what you have purchased....

    Also you are making a statement about an early unit that is no longer made. But we still fix them if they tear up. We have updated the foot pedal issue. You are making a current and dismissive assessment of the product line based on an Old, early design, and one that we are still supporting and repairing. You had an issue early on, but didn't really make the effort to resolve it. You dumped the unit and then bought something that isn't even in the same class and capability of the machine. You compare apples to oranges. But hey, who'd throw away a 1300 dollar welder over such a cheap and easy fix? Right? Boards for that machine are cheaper than what you quoted on yours...

    correction, i had several issues fixed before the final straw that broke the camels back
    I dont care if its not made anymore, when I purchased it STRAIT FROM EVERLAST if it was an older unit that is no longer made I sure wasnt told. And, yes, the first FEW issues I had early on I went through all the hoops that are typical of chinese welders. "try this", "tighten that" and I got it to be a 100% good welder, 90% of the time. What ended up "fixing" the first few issues was I had to purchase a upgraded pedal because the one it was shipped with was, yet again, an older design that half ### worked. Honestly I could have sent it back, had it fixed and sold it but I didnt want my name associated with the thing when it #### the bed AGAIN
    But thanks for an opinion and closure on this thread 3 years after you started it. I just wish it had been more about your experience with the machine and less about a summation of the current Everlast product line (and really the line since 2010) as a whole.
    It was about my experience about the damn welder, what are we talking about? Someone elses welder? You go to ANY website you guys are on and you blame shift everything. The "manuals" are terrible, you blame it on the printer. The pedals stop working, you tell the customer to check the cog, etc.. Accept responsibility, you sell inferior products compared to lincoln/miller. At everlasts price point it should be inferior, embrace that. Thats YOUR market. Dont try to pass the green machines off as something its not. Ive given my review, you dont like it, sorry. The green machine drones here may be biased enough to see that you have not once taken responsibility over this outcome but anyone looking to purchase and spend there hard earned dollars will surely see who is right and who is wrong. Goodluck with the business
    Last edited by singlesupra; 09-03-2016 at 10:40 PM.

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    Nonsense,

    Most forum members here and elsewhere have seen the good character, reasonableness, and effort of Everlast staff toward their customers and welding units. I mean, I certainly have.

    The manuals are not "terrible". They're quit good, not flawless. I mean, what are you expecting, pop-out diorama scenes.

    The quality, superior value, superior warrantee, and their support has earned Everlast the undoubted top spot for imported units on the North American continent. And this very forum is an example of an added benefit of Everlast service.

    Of course, the Lincoln SW 175 is a proverbial yacht anchor; it's under-powered and over-priced, especially since it has almost no features at all. I mean, it's priced around what my 210EXT is, except without: AC Frequency Control, AC Balance, Digital Interface, Wave Forms, Memory Settings, Compactness, etc. And that's why the SW 175 is not being produced anymore, because it can't compete with Everlast units like my own 210EXT, which out-classes the SW 175 in every way.

    Yeah, the great majority of us Everlast customers, that you're apparently calling "drones", are happily spending our money on great Everlast units, and keeping more of our money in our pockets while enjoying units and feature-sets that would otherwise cost two or three times as much. So, we're happy, what's your problem?

    Anyway, it seems like you're needlessly blaming Everlast for "my experience", which is your emotions or so-called "feelings", of which only you control, or fail to. And, again, Everlast has many examples that I've seen of this forum where it has seemingly gone above and beyond for many of its customers. That's just an objective fact of reality that both yours and my own subjective "experience" cannot rightly refute.


    Quote Originally Posted by singlesupra View Post
    It was about my experience about the damn welder, what are we talking about? Someone elses welder? You go to ANY website you guys are on and you blame shift everything. The "manuals" are terrible, you blame it on the printer. The pedals stop working, you tell the customer to check the cog, etc.. Accept responsibility, you sell inferior products compared to lincoln/miller. At everlasts price point it should be inferior, embrace that. Thats YOUR market. Dont try to pass the green machines off as something its not. Ive given my review, you dont like it, sorry. The green machine drones here may be biased enough to see that you have not once taken responsibility over this outcome but anyone looking to purchase and spend there hard earned dollars will surely see who is right and who is wrong. Goodluck with the business
    Last edited by christian; 09-04-2016 at 01:01 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christian View Post
    Nonsense,

    Most forum members here and elsewhere have seen the good character, reasonableness, and effort of Everlast staff toward their customers and welding units. I mean, I certainly have.

    The manuals are not "terrible". They're quit good, not flawless. I mean, what are you expecting, pop-out diorama scenes.

    The quality, superior value, superior warrantee, and their support has earned Everlast the undoubted top spot for imported units on the North American continent. And this very forum is an example of an added benefit of Everlast service.

    Of course, the Lincoln SW 175 is a proverbial yacht anchor; it's under-powered and over-priced, especially since it has almost no features at all. I mean, it's priced around what my 210EXT is, except without: AC Frequency Control, AC Balance, Digital Interface, Wave Forms, Memory Settings, Compactness, etc. And that's why the SW 175 is not being produced anymore, because it can't compete with Everlast units like my own 210EXT, which out-classes the SW 175 in every way.

    Yeah, the great majority of us Everlast customers, that you're apparently calling "drones", are happily spending our money on great Everlast units, and keeping more of our money in our pockets while enjoying units and feature-sets that would otherwise cost two or three times as much. So, we're happy, what's your problem?

    Anyway, it seems like you're needlessly blaming Everlast for "my experience", which is your emotions or so-called "feelings", of which only you control, or fail to. And, again, Everlast has many examples that I've seen of this forum where it has seemingly gone above and beyond for many of its customers. That's just an objective fact of reality that both yours and my own subjective "experience" cannot rightly refute.
    And the fact is Ill be passing my lincoln down to my kids while you cant even remember your green machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlesupra View Post
    And the fact is Ill be passing my lincoln down to my kids while you cant even remember your green machine
    You sound childish and make foolish assumptions.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama View Post
    You sound childish and make foolish assumptions.
    I'm sure we all know every forum attracts those that need to make sure the rest of the world is aware that "they" are the biggest @sshole in the world.

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    This is too funny. (A plant for sure)

    You joined our forum in Aug 2009, then sold your welder in 2013 (that is a long time for 20 uses or 3 hours; whichever)?

    Now it's 2016, years later and you come here to post about a welder you bought 7 years ago? Our units have improved for sure in that time. But if you had a problem in 2009, or 2013, I would think you would be over it by now and moved on. Sheesh.

    I too have owned Lincoln and Miller as well. Our units weld just the same. If you see weldingtipsandtricks.com video, he uses our units quite often as well. Longest case of sour grapes I have ever seen. Also, I still have a couple of the old regulators in service with no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    This is too funny. (A plant for sure)

    You joined our forum in Aug 2009, then sold your welder in 2013 (that is a long time for 20 uses or 3 hours; whichever)?

    Now it's 2016, years later and you come here to post about a welder you bought 7 years ago? Our units have improved for sure in that time. But if you had a problem in 2009, or 2013, I would think you would be over it by now and moved on. Sheesh.

    I too have owned Lincoln and Miller as well. Our units weld just the same. If you see weldingtipsandtricks.com video, he uses our units quite often as well. Longest case of sour grapes I have ever seen. Also, I still have a couple of the old regulators in service with no problems.
    Did you really just accuse me of being a plant? After I purhcased the welder directly from you? Actually I ran across this post after another person asked me about how it was holding up so it reminded me to update the thread. Your products are junk, your attitude here is on par. I had nothing but issues with the thing from day one, with proof. Keep up the snide remarks, it just proves what kind of company you guys run and everytime someone searches this they will see. Honestly Im suprised you havnt deleted this thread like the ones you did on several other forums....

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlesupra View Post
    It was about my experience about the damn welder, what are we talking about? Someone elses welder? You go to ANY website you guys are on and you blame shift everything. The "manuals" are terrible, you blame it on the printer. The pedals stop working, you tell the customer to check the cog, etc.. Accept responsibility, you sell inferior products compared to lincoln/miller. At everlasts price point it should be inferior, embrace that. Thats YOUR market. Dont try to pass the green machines off as something its not. Ive given my review, you dont like it, sorry. The green machine drones here may be biased enough to see that you have not once taken responsibility over this outcome but anyone looking to purchase and spend there hard earned dollars will surely see who is right and who is wrong. Goodluck with the business
    Obviously it is NOT soley about your experience with the welder as you are categorically making comments about the company and ALL the products in general...even in your rebuttal. C'mon. I am not blame shifting, but putting it squarely where it needs to be. You gave up after 3 hours you said. You didn't follow though and you are making categorical comments based on a 7 year old product that did have a limited run. The manuals? Have you even read them? They are online and they are for everyone to see. We don't blame printers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Obviously it is NOT soley about your experience with the welder as you are categorically making comments about the company and ALL the products in general...even in your rebuttal. C'mon. I am not blame shifting, but putting it squarely where it needs to be. You gave up after 3 hours you said. You didn't follow though and you are making categorical comments based on a 7 year old product that did have a limited run. The manuals? Have you even read them? They are online and they are for everyone to see. We don't blame printers.
    3 hours? No, try 3 years(as my posts have clearly said) of dealing with almost always something being wrong with it. So what you are saying is I happen to purchased a bad run? Look bud, you can try all you want but theres a reason you see 500 blue or red machines on a job site to every green one you see. Thats my point, its a hobby welder, at best, but in your defense its priced accordingly

    So again, as I said, good luck with the company and I hope people who are on the fence of buying a quality welder realize that by the time you replace all the junk accys that come with everlast that they are not far or even on price on a machine that will still be welding for there kids. Even you yourself keep bringing up the fact that it was a "7 year old welder", exactly my point, these things are not made for the long haul. It wasnt 7 years old when I purchased it and was advertised buy you guys as top of the line at the time.

    I have no stake in your company I just hope people see my real world review, not like 99% of the other everlast reviews, but an actual review after several years. Im sure a few, and I mean a very few, may last but thats the difference between everlast/any of the "import" machines, they are throw away welders that if you get 2 or 3 years out of them with no issues count yourself lucky

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    Again, you are not even making fair comparisons or reasonable assertions. 1) The accessories you received have been change a LONG time ago. 2) Your unit was an early transition model away from MOSFET to IGBT technology in 2009. 3) With other name brands you have to buy the accessories, which again adds to your purchase cost, which again offsets the difference 4) We offer upgrades to our accessory packages as well in the likes of SSC and CK worldwide. 4) We have a lot of those old units, and even our old mosfets dating back to 2004 still in service. We still stock parts and consumables for them, and if we don't have them, we still can get them and repair them if we are out. 5) We have huge name companies in everything from racing to the aerospace industry using our products daily. You are far behind the progress we made in the past 7 years. I have put whole fleets of our products in Union hall training centers. I have put multiple units in many welding schools, many well known all across this country. We have international distributors on every continent except Antarctica. 6) We are have had 7 years of consecutive growth, in the double digits. 7) We've invested major money in our factories, production, QC and testing over the last few years. 8) We have monthly productions inspections (in person) and regular, un-announced separate independent inspections of the production facilities.

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