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Kempy Changed Control Plug MTS250S 05-08-2013, 12:59 PM
Rivets The easiest way is to change... 05-08-2013, 03:54 PM
performance Any change like this will... 05-08-2013, 04:21 PM
Kempy Well I guess I will have lots... 05-08-2013, 09:43 PM
performance The new 255ext will take... 05-08-2013, 10:14 PM
Kempy No I did not take it apart... 05-08-2013, 10:31 PM
Rambozo What a pain. They really... 05-09-2013, 08:22 AM
Kempy No my Spool Gun that came... 05-09-2013, 12:52 PM
Rambozo I see now, I was just looking... 05-09-2013, 01:48 PM
Rivets Excellent point Rambozo. I... 05-09-2013, 04:02 PM
performance No, most boards are plug and... 05-09-2013, 04:28 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    The new 255ext will take different ohm pedals...but the connector will have to match. I am not sure, but the adapter idea IS the easiest solution. Looks like you have already opened up the welder to remove the female plug? You can get a couple of male/female connections online and easily make an adapter.
    No I did not take it apart the picture is of the 250EX plug that I had to take out the Female pins for the HF was jumping across the pins that were not used. The new 250S has reversed the pins order on the plugs now Female on the machine and Male on the plugs.
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    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    No I did not take it apart the picture is of the 250EX plug that I had to take out the Female pins for the HF was jumping across the pins that were not used. The new 250S has reversed the pins order on the plugs now Female on the machine and Male on the plugs.

    What a pain. They really should have a standard plug. If they are worried about mixing up wires and burning something out, voiding the warranty, a miswired adapter could do that just the same. To avoid that, they should be able to sell you the proper adapter.
    Are you saying the spoolgun you specifically got for this welder, came with the wrong plug, too?
    Long arc, short arc, heliarc and in-the-dark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    What a pain. They really should have a standard plug. If they are worried about mixing up wires and burning something out, voiding the warranty, a miswired adapter could do that just the same. To avoid that, they should be able to sell you the proper adapter.
    Are you saying the spoolgun you specifically got for this welder, came with the wrong plug, too?
    No my Spool Gun that came with my Power I Mig 205P will not fit, you need a different one but it is the same unit but they have different plugs and now you can use the wire speed knob on the side that was not hooked up on the 205P they just added the wires and a different plug not to mix up the guns so I have lots of spare parts. It is the same with most everything one year to the next they keep changing the parts it could be for the electronics in the MTS250S.
    Well I do like the machine and the way it welds.
    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    No my Spool Gun that came with my Power I Mig 205P will not fit, you need a different one but it is the same unit but they have different plugs and now you can use the wire speed knob on the side that was not hooked up on the 205P they just added the wires and a different plug not to mix up the guns so I have lots of spare parts. It is the same with most everything one year to the next they keep changing the parts it could be for the electronics in the MTS250S.
    Well I do like the machine and the way it welds.
    I see now, I was just looking at the list of machines in your sig. Still it would be nice if the company standardized on a common plug, or at least made the required adapters available. I would guess that some of this comes from more than one factory, but they do spec a number of things, so that should be one.
    Long arc, short arc, heliarc and in-the-dark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    What a pain. ......... If they are worried about mixing up wires and burning something out, voiding the warranty, a miswired adapter could do that just the same....
    Excellent point Rambozo.

    I also get Mark's point about the warranty.

    But OTOH, the company will sometimes send replacement parts, i.e. boards, solenoids, components, etc, and allow diving into the unit for DIY repair.

    Seems to me that the potential for screw ups would be much greater.

    What about the warranty then?

    rivets

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    No, most boards are plug and play, and what few wires there are, aren't like the array running to the plug. But then if we authorize it, we have weighed the risk.

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