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    Let's just say Tim has his reasons for switching things up. He's a good guy with some neat ideas.

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    imo he is an idiot for grinding with a glove on the hand holding the grinder but not to hand holding the item he is grinding... needs to have a glove on both hands... safety should be #1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    imo he is an idiot for grinding with a glove on the hand holding the grinder but not to hand holding the item he is grinding... needs to have a glove on both hands... safety should be #1!
    His hands are his hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    His hands are his hands.
    Protect me from someone else, protect someone else from me, don't protect me from me... it's called freedom.
    Protect me from the YouTube safety nazis!

    For me it seems a little backwards, I can't remember a time I've run the grinder into the hand holding it, it's the other one that seems to attract the spinning disc.
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    Well, Toby,
    One of the problems with protective equipment, is that sometimes it reduces your mobility and sensitivity, thereby making the risks outweigh the benefits. A lot of times it is a judgement call as to what allows the overall safest work. Tim is a big boy...He knows the risks. I wouldn't expect that would top the safety hall of fame...but it is far from the worst practice I have seen...and welding in flip flops and shorts isn't the worst either (a running joke between Mike and I), but if you are welding in 110 degree heat, you will be surprised the tradeoffs between getting a little slag burn here or there on your pinky toe or knee cap versus certain heat stroke due to the protective equipment mount up.

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    The whole issue of gloves is grossly understated. In this case of the grinder, he will learn, as the risks involve some severe scraping and mangling of the hand, or some serious burns. Not the case with Welders, and especially Plasma Cutters: if you complete the circuit to ground through your bare hand and body, it can be fatal! I always wear gloves, and prefer my Tig Gloves. Much better dexterity than traditional leather MIG or Stick Gloves, and I actually have several pairs laying around so there is no excuse not to be wearing a pair. Another key safety item when using the plasma cutter, is to ground the workpiece directly, vs just grounding the table. This way, if you do lift the piece off the table, it is always grounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Paulie View Post
    The whole issue of gloves is grossly understated. In this case of the grinder, he will learn, as the risks involve some severe scraping and mangling of the hand, or some serious burns. Not the case with Welders, and especially Plasma Cutters: if you complete the circuit to ground through your bare hand and body, it can be fatal! I always wear gloves, and prefer my Tig Gloves. Much better dexterity than traditional leather MIG or Stick Gloves, and I actually have several pairs laying around so there is no excuse not to be wearing a pair. Another key safety item when using the plasma cutter, is to ground the workpiece directly, vs just grounding the table. This way, if you do lift the piece off the table, it is always grounded.
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    First, while cutting, the voltage is typically around 100 V. If you complete the path while cutting, well a good shock is the least of your worries. The power is not activated to the torch until the switch is pressed. If you somehow complete the path with the true ocv, then yes it can be a problem, but it is highly unlikely.

    Second, leather gloves do not do a good job of insulating you from the work or the circuit. Where I live and a lot of people live heat is a constant issue and the slightest bit of persperation while working instantly nullifies the "insulation" theory. Leather has salt in it anyway which increases the conductivity of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Paulie View Post
    if you complete the circuit to ground through your bare hand and body, it can be fatal!
    Here is a tip, don't complete the circuit with your body, gloves or not.
    BTW HF will always bite you right through TIG gloves, and as Mark says, a little sweat will defeat your gloves completely. And with a cutoff disc on an angle grinder TIG gloves would probably delay your injury by a couple of milliseconds at best. A cutoff disc will go through them like butter. Are they better than nothing? Maybe, but only if you are aware of their limitations. I've seen too many people that put on safety gear and feel invincible and do stupid things they would never do otherwise. As zoama says, it's all about personal responsibility.
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    I have not tried tig specific gloves, but I prefer mechanics gloves when welding or grind. they give you a good feel of what you are doing.

    What brand of tig gloves do you guys prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    What brand of tig gloves do you guys prefer?
    John Tilman gets my vote. I have yet to try all the different ones they make, but the deerskin and pigskin are some of my favorites.
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    I wish that we'd start carrying the tig gloves that Austrailia is carrying with kidskin. They send me a few pair everyonce in a while and they are really nice...long cuffs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    John Tilman gets my vote. I have yet to try all the different ones they make, but the deerskin and pigskin are some of my favorites.
    Ditto. Never needed to try another brand, beyond happy with the 25ALs. About $10 now a pair, still dirt cheap. And true, they would delay the grinder about 100-200 msecs.
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