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    Or is it the torch plug itself? Also maybe this only effects the Canada machines? Thanks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    I like those new points, it's a huge improvement.
    I agree with this. Looks like it might be a little easier to get access to also.
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    I picked up my 250ex tonight and aside having the front bezel cracked it works fine.....gotta love UPS. I did notice however the HF start take a little while to get an arc going....is that a gap problem? It will sit there for a couple seconds and then start the arc....almost like it doesn't know it's started yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    I picked up my 250ex tonight and aside having the front bezel cracked it works fine.....gotta love UPS. I did notice however the HF start take a little while to get an arc going....is that a gap problem? It will sit there for a couple seconds and then start the arc....almost like it doesn't know it's started yet.
    Make sure your preflow isn't cranked up high. Typically .1 to .5 seconds is plenty, if you use it at all.

    Bezel cracking seems to be the big shipping damage issue. I wonder if there is a solution for that such as a stronger bezel, better foam inserts, or both? It's not like I expect UPS to get any better in handling. Or like Oleg mentioned maybe it's time to look into alternate carriers.
    Last edited by Rambozo; 03-07-2013 at 02:34 AM.
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    Johnson,

    Turn off the pre-flow and see how the unit performs and let us know. I have not see or heard many cracked bezel issues in some time, even during the holidays this year..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    Or is it the torch plug itself? Also maybe this only effects the Canada machines? Thanks....
    Just pulled the pins out of the plug that is on the end of the torch for the switch 2T or 4T control. Just take the little screw out of the chrome cover and the two screws holding the wire and filler out then unscrew the chrome part you will see the spare pins squeeze them together and push them out from the wire side. The picture on #5 is plug in to the welder with the chrome cover out of the way. NOTE look at the plug end that goes into the welder and see if it has two sliver connectors if so leave it only if all the pins are there you can remove them if you have the problem. The foot pedal as all the pins do not take it apart it will not have the little screw it is all glued together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    Johnson,

    Turn off the pre-flow and see how the unit performs and let us know. I have not see or heard many cracked bezel issues in some time, even during the holidays this year..
    Yes Mike and Rambozo that might be the problem I had that when I was playing around with mine set the pre-flow to 3 seconds and could not figure why it would not start, it would flow gas but had know arc or HF. It is a good feature to make sure the gas in covering the weld area before starting to weld.
    It is good to see that Everlast and Forum member are always ready to help, keep up the good work.
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    I'm going to double check the preflow and try the machine some more in a bit....I'll report back in an hour or so. Thanks for the help Kempy. The bezel isn't the end of the world....at least the unit still works. Oleg said he can take care of it so no worries. I did notice a small amount of side to side movement in the box...that and the "normal" UPS treatment is hard to survive.

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    ok there is something defiantly wrong.....it just holds the HF arc for ever. It will be HF arcing and after 30 seconds decide to start the welding arc. Sometimes less sometimes more. I cleaned the ground, adjusted gas preflow to zero, tried a different torch, super sharpened tungsten, and it still does it with the pedal floored. The AC lights up right away, but the arc is wandering all over the place and makes a loud snapping, clicking noise. I think the unit got goofed in shipping..... I bummed out, I really needed this machine to start some work. Would the point gap cause any of this? I see the HF arc it just won't start welding.....(only when it wants). Oleg I'll call you in a couple hours

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    So I think I found out what was going on.....my gas lens was junk. It was causing the arc problem. I switched over to a normal collet and all seems well..... So besides the crack in the bezel the machine is ok I'll give it a good solid amount of weld time over the weekend.

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    Are you holding the tungsten 1/8" or less off the metal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    Yes Mike and Rambozo that might be the problem I had that when I was playing around with mine set the pre-flow to 3 seconds and could not figure why it would not start, it would flow gas but had know arc or HF. It is a good feature to make sure the gas in covering the weld area before starting to weld.
    It is good to see that Everlast and Forum member are always ready to help, keep up the good work.
    I rarely use pre-flow. Just purge the line with the trigger when you first start. It will hold the argon after that.
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    Ok after messing with the machine some more it appears it does have a problem. I use a Dynasty 200dx and 350dx 5 hours a day. I know how to hold the tungsten, start and arc...ect. While I'm welding the HF kicks on and just keeps buzzing....while I'm welding. Also when I set the machine to pulse HI around 200hz, it will start at 200hz then as I start welding it slows down to around 30hz then as I keep depressing the pedal it keeps speeding up? The HF starting issue comes and goes....I was trying to weld some razor blades together after school to test the low amperage (see photo). The machine amperage on the panel would be set at 10 amps...then after welding be at 6 amps. Then jump to 13 amps. Not sure what is going on.....Click image for larger version. 

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    Your pulse may be synchronizing with your AC frequency if it happens in AC, making it seem to slow down. But if your pulse is on, the unit samples the amps and it will read various amp readings while the pulse is on...either that or your foot pedal is slipping or a bad place in the pot.

    What happens when you flip the pulse to low? Does it maintain?

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    His Pulse was at 300hz , I think Ray already took care of him . units is fine
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    I'm uploading a video as Ray requested on youtube. When I first start an arc it is pulsing fast...then as I push the pedal more it slows the pulse, then as I push more it speeds it up....then as I "floor" it it slows down again. I'll post another video of the HF issue turning on in mid weld in a couple minutes. Here is the youtube link - http://youtu.be/pyLHH7SvZow .....it will be live in about 10 minutes.

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    Thanks for guiding me through this buy the way. I know you guys take care of your customers and I stand buy the product 100%. Like I said I'm guessing if it's a unit problem it was causing in shipping. It's that or I'm overlooking something big time -RJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    Thanks for guiding me through this buy the way. I know you guys take care of your customers and I stand buy the product 100%. Like I said I'm guessing if it's a unit problem it was causing in shipping. It's that or I'm overlooking something big time -RJ
    Have you checked the gap on the points? Tried them at .030 and .040? I did not re-read the thread, but something to check.
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    Looks like something got bumped in shipping. Thanks for taking care of me Oleg.

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