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    Hmmm! It does not seem like these machines are tested before they leave California!

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    No, as we tell customers they are tested in the factory, usually while we are there during production.
    We do not tell people they are tested in California. The points are new and manufacturing is getting greased in the groove now on the installation of them, I believe. But we'll address these things like this (if they are a problem) shortly and directly in a few days.
    Last edited by performance; 12-15-2012 at 04:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    No, as we tell customers they are tested in the factory, usually while we are there during production.
    We do not tell people they are tested in California. The points are new and manufacturing is getting greased in the groove now on the installation of them, I believe. But we'll address these things like this (if they are a problem) shortly and directly in a few days.
    Over Here in Aussie,
    The Guys here at Everlast,TED and BOB re Test everything before Shipping and Leave THE plugs on so they are already Pre Wired.
    I Take my hat off to them as they are very thorough
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    Is it that difficult to fire up a machine before it goes to a customer? This way most will get machines working from the get go, being proactive will with your business, IMHO.

    How do I know if the point gap is not perfectly set on my machine? Is it one of those things that it either works or it does not? Also if it is slightly off will it show on the operation of the machine? Have never tig welded before or use any other machine, how will I know if the gap is set correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicrc View Post
    Is it that difficult to fire up a machine before it goes to a customer? This way most will get machines working from the get go, being proactive will with your business, IMHO.

    How do I know if the point gap is not perfectly set on my machine? Is it one of those things that it either works or it does not? Also if it is slightly off will it show on the operation of the machine? Have never tig welded before or use any other machine, how will I know if the gap is set correctly?
    It would take setting up a place to do the testing, along with unboxing and reboxing. Form other posts it sounds like they are often reshipped right from clearing customs after import, so it might not be that practical. Also I expect that the real damage comes not from riding on a boat in a huge shipping container, but from UPS tossing things around. So testing here would not likely help much.

    The only way you will know if the point gap is set right is to measure it. It will have to be off pretty good to be able to see it in the arc starts. Point adjustment is a standard TIG thing and lots of machines have the instructions for that in the manual. Older transformer machines often had a little door just to access the points, because they often used them continuously on AC, not just for starting. With only starting you will probably never need to adjust them, unless the machine gets a banged around, so they don't need the easy access anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    It would take setting up a place to do the testing, along with unboxing and reboxing. Form other posts it sounds like they are often reshipped right from clearing customs after import, so it might not be that practical. Also I expect that the real damage comes not from riding on a boat in a huge shipping container, but from UPS tossing things around. So testing here would not likely help much.
    This is correct, and this time of year is normally the worse (Holidays).

    And with two guys on the truck now, one is fresh and can throw it a lot further (sorry, could not resist, a joke). I truly hope they are doing a good job.
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    It is possible to ship a few hundred in a day. It takes about 30-45 minutes to unbox, hook up, properly test live (not to mention load bank) and rebox a unit properly to ship...then people complain their boxes were open. We get complaints even now that the torches were tested or fired (at the factory) before they are received and even people insisting we send them a " new" one. Add a couple of hundred dollars to your unit and we'll be glad to personally test it. That's the kind of cost that you are dealing with...because it requires massive amounts of man power to do all this that would be wasted. Maybe that is why Miller charges 400.00 more for the essentially same spool gun? BUT... They are tested individually in the factory live and also tested in on a load bank. We've posted pictures of this process. Duncan has discussed this in a thread. We improved the factory side testing and they are ever working on making improvements to production...Other countries do not have the same volume that we do and have a different structure so they may be able to perform testing before they are sent out.l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty1 View Post
    Over Here in Aussie,
    The Guys here at Everlast,TED and BOB re Test everything before Shipping and Leave THE plugs on so they are already Pre Wired.
    I Take my hat off to them as they are very thorough
    I BET THEY ship a lot less units than we do in the US.

    Duncan (Canada) does as well and he ship a lot of units. My hat is off to him.. But for us, we can not based on volume.
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    Leave THE plugs on so they are already Pre Wired.
    The plugs that come in the box with North American LX225s are kind of a running joke. It's the right plug for about half the current one of these consume, and I think even the everlast manual says to toss it out.

    Duncan runs an amazingly good service for us Canucks. I can't say enough good things.

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    I have not seen any of those type in use here in the US, But i noticed about a month ago looking at some electrical items a friend had for sale, He had a case of 100 cords about 6 foot long with the same end on them.
    Have no idea were they were being shipped and what the application would be here in the US unless a US manufacture was installing them on a product that was being shipped to Asia.
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    It's a US plug, just really, really old and specialized.
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