NEW 2013 Everlast PowerMIG 210 and 200 MIG / TIG DIGITAL WELDER

[Oleg]

stay tuned ...

[ShaneJackson]

PowerMig 210 and 200 Mig/Tig (not a MTS)???

Is there still going to be a PowerMig 200?

[Oleg]

PowerMig 210 and 200 Mig/Tig (not a MTS)???

Is there still going to be a PowerMig 200?

will have new digital PowerMIG 200 and 210

[ShaneJackson]

I cant wait to see the details on the new PowerMig 200....

[ShaneJackson]

Any details yet? Cant wait to see it.

[ShaneJackson]

One more bump... It is getting close to the new year... Any updates?

[ShaneJackson]

Was hopping to get a MIG in the next few weeks... Is the lack of response an indication that the new units will not be ready soon???

[performance]

Probably by late February...I think.

[MuttonHawg]

Any more information about these new Everlast MIG machines? Will other models be discontinued? Or replaced by these new machines? Any specs or (if there aren't photos) drawings of the front panels? I might be in the market for a MIG quite soon, and I'm curious if the new machines will suit my (expected) needs best and I should wait? Or if I should consider buying a used one from a forum member or an on-sale machine from the Everlast eBay store.

Thanks!

[performance]

No, just like our PowerTIGs, there's not plan to replace the current series, but to diversify the offerings. We'll release some info soon. The current series are excellent products. No reason to delay the purchase.

[ShaneJackson]

Well it's a month later... are we any where near an update on the MIG units?

[jbirdlebough]

stay tuned ...

Define Digital, is this a microprocessor controlled MTS DC only or a true multi-process system with TIG AC/DC, MIG AC/DC, Dual isolated gas feeds, Stick and Plasma Cutter.

Digital does have some advantages if its closed loop system where active welding is monitored in real time, and adjustments to the weld in real time. Or are we just talking digital display for settings. And does it support RS-232/485, Ethernet 100BT, Wifi or Bluetooth yet so we can use a app on PC, pad or tablet to build our welding recipe cookbook? Does it have duty cycle monitor that turns off the arc until system as returned to proper operating temperature.

Also have they migrated to SMT vs DIP (very old) technology? Assume IGBT outputs.

I just ordered a PP 205S because it has AC and Plasma. Hence the questions above.

Thanks
Cloudfarmer@DELL

[DVA]

stay tuned ...

Will any of these machines have pulse capabilities?

[MuttonHawg]

Define Digital, is this a microprocessor controlled MTS DC only or a true multi-process system with TIG AC/DC, MIG AC/DC, Dual isolated gas feeds, Stick and Plasma Cutter.

Digital does have some advantages if its closed loop system where active welding is monitored in real time, and adjustments to the weld in real time. Or are we just talking digital display for settings. And does it support RS-232/485, Ethernet 100BT, Wifi or Bluetooth yet so we can use a app on PC, pad or tablet to build our welding recipe cookbook? Does it have duty cycle monitor that turns off the arc until system as returned to proper operating temperature.

Also have they migrated to SMT vs DIP (very old) technology? Assume IGBT outputs.

I just ordered a PP 205S because it has AC and Plasma. Hence the questions above.

Thanks
Cloudfarmer@DELL

I don't need a computerized closed-loop real-time-controlled welding setup, but if I had that functionality I'd surely be tempted to find a way to use it to cause trouble! CNC welding I'd assume it just means digital for settings, like on the EXT family of TIG machines. While not controllable via a computer interface, at least it gets highly repeatable and precise settings, versus dials which are pretty darn close most of the time. Or perhaps there are more complex waveform controls possible for pulse settings that the 'digital' moniker implies.

[performance]

jbirdlebough,

In a welding system, a digital welder is simply defined as a micro processor controlled welder. All primary functions are controlled through a processor chip. The PowerPro are analog welders. They use electronics but have no central core to manage the functions. Welders don't lend themselves to supporting things like wi fi or blue tooth because of the severe HF interferance. Unless you are welding on a welder that costs in excess of 20k, you won't need to worry about cooking up your own welding recipe...Even guys welding on Nuke plants don't worry about such minutia. Nor do welding engineers. IF a unit is capable of a process, then it's generally assumed that the welder will make a sound weld. It's the operator that is usually the problem...and no amount of tuning will fix that. The output of the welders are optimized and standardized pretty much across the industry. Duty cycle is controlled by a simple thermostat type control. When it reaches the temperature limit, it cuts out. While we do have an industrial line that we can special order (and a good bit of it goes overseas to the oilfields) that even goes into touch screen technology and USB downloading of some synergic programming for MIG, it is generally prohibitively expensive even for Chinese made eqiupment. So little additional benefit is achieved by having things programmable for the average or even above average welding shop. K.I.S.S. is the main principle that guides the welding industry. Companies like Fronius have gone overboard, and overpriced to try to provide a higher level of technological achievement with adjustable programming and the like but really has fallen flat on its face in the Western hemisphere because of its lack of practicality and need of an computer programming degree along with an engineering degree coupled with 40 years of welding experience to get one to work correctly. Quite simply...this is not our market. Nor should it be.

There's no such thing as AC MIG unless its a cheap piece of you know what. True multiprocess has nothing to do with how many functions it carries. To be multiprocess, it only needs to be capable of two processes. Traditionally though, multiprocess means that you are dealing with both CV and CC welding processes, and that includes MIG (CV) and Tig/stick (CC).