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    Default Group buy: .023 drive rolls for IMIG machines

    Recently there have been some posts talking about using .023 drive rolls in IMIG machines. IMIG owners know the machine’s smallest wire capacity is .030; I’d like to see if a .023 drive roll will work. There is a U.S. supplier with these rolls here:
    http://weldingdirect.com/52drro0vgrnu.html

    They sell for $18.20 each, but their minimum order is $50 not including shipping… so rather than load up on equipment that I don’t need (to meet the minimum purchase) I’m proposing a group buy to meet the purchase minimum and possibly expand the capability of your machine. Basically, this is a “will it work” gamble.

    I’ve thought about the expenses involved, and it winds up being the cost of each roll, shipping from the vendor to me, then shipping to you, if you join. Each roll is $18.20, the vendor tells me that shipping is the UPS cost plus $4.50 handling, for a total of about $16.50. Since the rolls are about 1 ounce (I weighed mine this morning) I’m guessing U.S. first class mail plus the cost of a bubble wrap envelope to be about $2.50.

    As far as expenses go, the unknown is the vendor’s shipping cost: if three guys join shipping could be as much as $5, so the max price would be $25.50, less if more people join.

    Here’s my promise to anyone that joins: I’m not in this to make money, and I’ll ship as quickly as possible once I get rolls from the vendor. I’m doing this to share the Everlast joy- so for that reason I’d like to step out of the equation after shipping to you. I’ll provide a copy of the purchase documentation to all participants, and I wouldn’t leave anybody hanging, but I’d suggest that any subsequent communication with the vendor would be on your terms. My original thought was to keep this within the US for ease of mailing; instead anyone can play if you’re willing to pay actual postage from the US.

    If you’d like to join, respond here or send a PM. We should probably set a “last call” for a couple days out so we can get the order in as quickly as possible. Let me know!
    DaveO
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    Hey Dave,

    What's the cost to me. Just checked the 205P and IMIG200, looks like the same drive assembly, pulled the IMIG200 (since it is doing aluminum spool gun these days and no wire in it).

    ID=22mm OD=30mm width=10mm, key was like 4.1mm but close enough. Wish it was a .023 and .040, and I know we have a little speed issue on the .023 per Mark.

    If under $25 or $30, count me in for one if you have paypal (and my kids have not broke my paypal account ). Also, mine weighted in at .85 oz. So not much there in weight.
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    If a third person joins (we'd need a third to get past the min order), the most it would be is $25.50. More people would defray the vendor's shipping cost even more, so per roll cost would go down. And I should have mentioned, let's plan to use Payal.
    DaveO
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    If a third person joins (we'd need a third to get past the min order), the most it would be is $25.50. More people would defray the vendor's shipping cost even more, so per roll cost would go down. And I should have mentioned, let's plan to use Payal.
    Don't forget paypal has a charge in there that will come from your end, so add for that too.

    Count me in. Did ROd ever say weather is worked well or not. I think he said he bought one. Come to think of it, have not see Rod on for a bit?
    Mike R.
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    If you look on eBay UK you will find a variety of drive rollers for MIG machines but no one in the US seems to carry these in stock.

    No minimum order requirements here but the price is a little higher with more options to choose: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MIG-WELDER...item19d4b1a3ef
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    I did speak with Rod via PM, who said it did work in conjunction with a "resistor" ground, described in post #5 in this thread.
    http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...5408#post35408

    X83, I saw that UK piece altho I didn't see the options. I was a little concerned about the exchange rate, and the cost and timeliness of shipping from the UK.
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    Does the 250P use the same rollers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    X83, I saw that UK piece altho I didn't see the options. I was a little concerned about the exchange rate, and the cost and timeliness of shipping from the UK.
    I just purchased some replacement blue, red, yellow Teflonliners for my mig gun and had them within twelve days form the UK.

    The exchange rate is for one pound is around $1.62 USD so that drive roller would be $27.55 USD plus shipping cost.
    PowerTig 250EXT ordered on 2/20/12 - AluMig~250P - MasterTig~250AC - Matco Mig~Spot Welder - Giaintec CAT250D - Harris Steelworker Oxy/Acet - Henrob DHC 2000 - Van Norman CB1401 - Lagun FTV1 Mill - CM Mill/Drill - CM 13x40 Lathe - CM 7x12 Bandsaw - CM 6x48 Belt Sander - CM 12 Disc Sander - Baldor 3/4HP Buffer - TP 960 Blast Cab - 48~Box & Pan Break - 52~Foot Shear - 20~Ton Press - 80~Gal 7.5HP Compressor - 9' Snap On Tool Box - 30' Stainless Tool Box Workbench - 3M Speedglas 9100Xx

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