Everlast 210EXT review and pictures

[todmorg]

I know everyone like pictures, so here's a few more...

Ed, I think the processor is the tiny thing that I'm pointing at with a philips screwdriver. It's Very small with no markings.

I still haven't located an arc gap, I'm thinking it must be gapless.

[Rodsmachineshop]

What Amazes me is how well made the everlast welders are made . looking at the circuity boards in this unit looks like they did not cut corner notice had large capacitors and they are using over kill resisters which is good . I have the 250 tig and there plasma cutter . there very well made machines , what is good about the everlast company they take care of you , Had miller tig and it was act of god to get them to help you when something broke . With everlast there rite there to help when something go wrong . there honestly the only company i will buy welding stuff from now on , since of there great service

[todmorg]

What Amazes me is how well made the everlast welders are made . looking at the circuity boards in this unit looks like they did not cut corner notice had large capacitors and they are using over kill resisters which is good . I have the 250 tig and there plasma cutter . there very well made machines , what is good about the everlast company they take care of you , Had miller tig and it was act of god to get them to help you when something broke . With everlast there rite there to help when something go wrong . there honestly the only company i will buy welding stuff from now on , since of there great service

Another nice thing is all the boards are potted, they have a clear sealant on them for protection.

[blasphemy000]

By looking at the pictures of this unit, I am thoroughly impressed. All the component locations look well thought out and the wiring is nice and neat inside. It looks to be a very well built machine and of top quality. I'm really liking the gap-less HF as well. I'm still in the "saving money" stage of my welder purchase and I was looking forward to purchasing a 250EX but now I think I'm going to have to consider this 210EXT as a possibility as well. I'll just have to decide whether or not I'll need the extra 40 amps or not. Could somebody post up the full specs on this unit. Such as the duty-cycle at the full 210Amps and at what amperage the unit will run at 100% duty-cycle. Also do you know what the final price will be once this unit is in full production? Thanks.

[Oleg]

By looking at the pictures of this unit, I am thoroughly impressed. All the component locations look well thought out and the wiring is nice and neat inside. It looks to be a very well built machine and of top quality. I'm really liking the gap-less HF as well. I'm still in the "saving money" stage of my welder purchase and I was looking forward to purchasing a 250EX but now I think I'm going to have to consider this 210EXT as a possibility as well. I'll just have to decide whether or not I'll need the extra 40 amps or not. Could somebody post up the full specs on this unit. Such as the duty-cycle at the full 210Amps and at what amperage the unit will run at 100% duty-cycle. Also do you know what the final price will be once this unit is in full production? Thanks.

Hello Brad

Retail price on this unit will be 1799$ we will introduce pre order price as well ONCE we know units on sea so wait will not be long.
Full specs will be posted in few weeks on our site and I will post it here as well. This unit is definitely a WINNER

[todmorg]

By looking at the pictures of this unit, I am thoroughly impressed. All the component locations look well thought out and the wiring is nice and neat inside. It looks to be a very well built machine and of top quality. I'm really liking the gap-less HF as well. I'm still in the "saving money" stage of my welder purchase and I was looking forward to purchasing a 250EX but now I think I'm going to have to consider this 210EXT as a possibility as well. I'll just have to decide whether or not I'll need the extra 40 amps or not. Could somebody post up the full specs on this unit. Such as the duty-cycle at the full 210Amps and at what amperage the unit will run at 100% duty-cycle. Also do you know what the final price will be once this unit is in full production? Thanks.

I'll post some pictures of the tags on both units later today. I don't have the printed specs on either unit.

[performance]

So the PowerTig 250EXT is using these four channel Infineon BTS5440G chips encased inside those black IBGT power modules at the bottom of the unit?

http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data Sheets/Infineon PDFs/BTS5440G.pdf

No, that's not an IGBT.
It's the white blocks under the green circuit boards.

[X83]

No, that's not an IGBT.
It's the white blocks under the green circuit boards.

Ah ha... only two white blocks.
I wonder how many Infineon chips are inside those.

[Jules The Great]

He may have seen them here.

http://www.everlastwelders.ca/Tig.php

Was this 250EXT listed on the website and later taken down due to an issue? I am currious if all the info on the website is up to date?

[X83]

Are the IGBT modules manufactured by International Rectifier the same for the 210EXT & 250EXT units?

[performance]

Are the IGBT modules manufactured by International Rectifier the same for the 210EXT & 250EXT units?

No, the 250EXT uses infineon.

5440

Well, that's definitely making a pretty strong statement from the Canadians. I'll let them defend it. I'd say though, it's probably a little overreaching,unless a high helium blend is used... and for the 1/4" stick electrode, I just don't think it's realistic for a solid, stable arc.

[5440]

No, the 250EXT uses infineon.

5440

Well, that's definitely making a pretty strong statement from the Canadians. I'll let them defend it. I'd say though, it's probably a little overreaching,unless a high helium blend is used... and for the 1/4" stick electrode, I just don't think it's realistic for a solid, stable arc.

Yes I thought those specs on the Can site were a little on the high side. The 210EXT looks like a decent machine but so far I'm content with my 250EX for now.

[GUNNER]

No, the 250EXT uses infineon.

5440

Well, that's definitely making a pretty strong statement from the Canadians. I'll let them defend it. I'd say though, it's probably a little overreaching,unless a high helium blend is used... and for the 1/4" stick electrode, I just don't think it's realistic for a solid, stable arc.

I didn't know you had a store in Vancouver, BC? The reason I say this is whom ever placed that add is high as a kite on BC Bud!! That dog won't hunt!

[performance]

Yes, that is the processor. I am not sure what brand it is. But the IGBT modules are not Siemens, but an American known company, International Rectifier.

[jakeru]

Todd, I like how you get right into things. Great pics.

That black "structure" at the base of the unit is kind of interesting... I wonder what it is.

I'm curious to know how the dual pulse AC feature works, and whether that could be an effective substitute for the machine lacking an AC bias adjustment. For example, if you put the machine into "dual pulse" mode, with the background current being the same as the welding current, then varying the pulse duty % could effectively allow you to vary the effective AC bias. e.g, pulse duty at 0% = 50/50 bias pulse duty at 100% = 100/0 bias

Todd, I'd like to see you try some experiments with using the dual pulse feature at various pulse duty %'s with the balance set at the min 20%EP(80%EN), and see how the "cleaning etch width" on aluminum reacts. ...see if you can make the cathodic etch cleaning width completely disappear.

[kenwhite]

...That black "structure" at the base of the unit is kind of interesting... I wonder what it is...

Probably the IGBT module.

[todmorg]

Todd, I like how you get right into things. Great pics.

That black "structure" at the base of the unit is kind of interesting... I wonder what it is.

I'm curious to know how the dual pulse AC feature works, and whether that could be an effective substitute for the machine lacking an AC bias adjustment. For example, if you put the machine into "dual pulse" mode, with the background current being the same as the welding current, then varying the pulse duty % could effectively allow you to vary the effective AC bias. e.g, pulse duty at 0% = 50/50 bias pulse duty at 100% = 100/0 bias

Todd, I'd like to see you try some experiments with using the dual pulse feature at various pulse duty %'s with the balance set at the min 20%EP(80%EN), and see how the "cleaning etch width" on aluminum reacts. ...see if you can make the cathodic etch cleaning width completely disappear.

I plan on doing all kinds of aluminum testing in a coupe of days, I have a few jobs to finish before I'll be switching to aluminum. The double pulse does seem like it could have a lot of uses.

Also, "structure" is a good word for the black thing on the bottom, it runs the full length of the welder and is bolted down very secure. There are 2 small brass holes on each side with tiny brass screws recessed, I have not tried turning them, so I dont know if they are an adjustment of some sorts, like an arc gap, or if they are just holding something in place, like maybe the IGBT's like kenwhite mentions.

[redbeard]

I know everyone like pictures, so here's a few more...

Ed, I think the processor is the tiny thing that I'm pointing at with a philips screwdriver. It's Very small with no markings.

If it is the chip with the most leads, it probably is. That board sure has a whole lot more SMDs than the 250.



Are the bright spots in the 7 segment displays that noticable in real life or is it just the camera?

[Rodsmachineshop]

I like the welder only turn off for me i like knobs not all the sensor push pad stuff . like to just reach over and turn a knob and not have to turn a knob to get to what mode you want to adjust . that's why i like my 250ex so use to it now can reach over with out look to adjust stuff lol when dieled in almost never have to do any change when welding aluminum

[todmorg]

If it is the chip with the most leads, it probably is. That board sure has a whole lot more SMDs than the 250.



Are the bright spots in the 7 segment displays that noticable in real life or is it just the camera?

It's very easy to read, the camera makes it look bad

I like the welder only turn off for me i like knobs not all the sensor push pad stuff . like to just reach over and turn a knob and not have to turn a knob to get to what mode you want to adjust . that's why i like my 250ex so use to it now can reach over with out look to adjust stuff lol when dieled in almost never have to do any change when welding aluminum

I have a 250EX also, I agree, the visible knobs can be great for quick adjustments. Where the digitals are nice is if you want to flip between programs ( there are 10 stored programs ) and have the exact settings every time. Different strokes!

I knew it !! I can remember my daddy coming home from work and walking out to the metal building where we kept our first little dirt bikes he had given us as kids and my brothers and me having them torn apart figuring out how they worked....... If I try and post the exact words that came out his mouth this post from here forward will have every other word shown as blanks!!! Let's just say he explained exactly what the Japanese workers that had built the thing was going to say if he had to take them to the shop to get them put back together and today it's one of my favorite funny things I remember my dad saying in his life time to me...... On that particular day I was terrified to say a word !!!!! I'm laughing hard thinking about it now !!!! My pops was a funny man at times even though he wasn't trying to be...... What I wouldn't give to have just one more day with him now...

I thought I would outgrow the ripping things apart stage, but I just seem to get worse with time.