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    That's what I said. Getting units out for video is apparently low on the priority list with Oleg. I have asked for a 250P for several years now to test. It's in his court.

    No, you can't butt weld 3/8" steel. The "capability" we and our competitors refer to is not typically a buttweld joint. It is an edge prepared joint. It takes approx 1 amp per .001" of metal thickness to make a "butt weld" and get anywhere near 100% penetration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    No, you can't butt weld 3/8" steel. The "capability" we and our competitors refer to is not typically a buttweld joint. It is an edge prepared joint. It takes approx 1 amp per .001" of metal thickness to make a "butt weld" and get anywhere near 100% penetration.
    I've done some butt welding with MIG, just keep the wire over close to the weld puddle.

    In this video below, Jody shows a weld on a corner joint, downhill, at 4:00 and 4:30 minutes into the clip where he uses the puddle to MIG with a gap.

    Side note: Even though my downhill welds were always beautiful, I'd always been told, "You can't weld downhill because it will introduce cracks into the weld." He does it in the video below, though. Was I told wrong?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jp2code View Post
    I've done some butt welding with MIG, just keep the wire over close to the weld puddle.

    In this video below, Jody shows a weld on a corner joint, downhill, at 4:00 and 4:30 minutes into the clip where he uses the puddle to MIG with a gap.

    Side note: Even though my downhill welds were always beautiful, I'd always been told, "You can't weld downhill because it will introduce cracks into the weld." He does it in the video below, though. Was I told wrong?

    No, it won't introduce cracks in the weld, or nearly every small trailer, and cargo trailer manufacturer in this country is in deep doo -doo. Not properly done, it can have issues such as slag entrapment or incomplete fusion, which would cause cracking at the weak points, but you are not "introducing" cracks to the weld necessarily, other than for incomplete fusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    No, it won't introduce cracks in the weld, or nearly every small trailer, and cargo trailer manufacturer in this country is in deep doo -doo. Not properly done, it can have issues such as slag entrapment or incomplete fusion, which would cause cracking at the weak points, but you are not "introducing" cracks to the weld necessarily, other than for incomplete fusion.
    Thanks for the follow-up, Mark.

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