My take on Everlast tig welders

[zoama]

Some people just gotta have the last word I guess? I dated a lot of women like that over the course of 10 years that I was divorced... I've been over it however when people post things that I feel need addressing I reply. With any luck no one else with post about that #### any further..

A little rubbed off huh ?

[GUNNER]

A little rubbed off huh ?

That I won't deny. Usually ended up in a power struggle and them being shown where the door leading to the street is. Oh the memories !! LOL!!!!! That's probably my most favorite thing in the world to do. Breaking the news to some stupid woman that she really don't have complete control over the world with her magic little box. It's as devistating to them as finding out there really is no Santa Clause Lol!!

[zoama]

That I won't deny. Usually ended up in a power struggle and them being shown where the door leading to the street is. Oh the memories !! LOL!!!!! That's probably my most favorite thing in the world to do. Breaking the news to some stupid woman that she really don't have complete control over the world with her magic little box. It's as devistating to them as finding out there really is no Santa Clause Lol!!

I divorced my wife and let her send me child support checks for 18 years to remember her by. I never played the marriage game again... I just visit them and go back to my house.

[Zmechanic]

OK there's a very famous Larry Morgan are you saying that's your dad? I must be missing something here because Larry still races now and again in ProStock NHRA

Larry Morgan was still running NHRA pro-stock back then. In fact, here's a picture of me as a little tyke in his pits
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1..._6986590_n.jpg

Buuut, no, that's not my dad. Haha.

[GUNNER]

I divorced my wife and let her send me child support checks for 18 years to remember her by. I never played the marriage game again... I just visit them and go back to my house.

For the most part they aren't worth the powder it would take to blow their brains out if they had one in the first place..... MOST ! NOT ALL !!! In the 10 years I was single after being married 16 years the first time I dated countless WORTHLESS women! I however met my wife on a motorcycle forum and she lived 3000 plus miles away and became good friends with her with NO INTENTIONS of ever being more... When her marriage exploded one night from out of no where I offered her a place to come escape everyone and everything and stay with me and my soon to be wife.......After that soon to be wife showed her true vindictive colors she got showed where the street was located, and a year or so later I married my best friend and haven't ever looked back and have the best woman that has ever been born! The reason I told you this is simple ----------------------> Don't allow a bunch of petty bitches rob you of finding a good woman! If they do this they win and you lose and no petty bitch has ever beat me and never will! My whore ex wife nearly got the better of my ### but in the end I win and she loses! She gets everything she deserves! Our kids now that they are grown know her for what she done and I didn't have to tell them a word ! Good does prevail over evil but sometimes it takes a little longer than we hope for...

Back to the welding show !!

[srp]

By looking at the pictures, Gunner does some good fab work!

[srp]

I have been welding two days with the new 250EX, no problems to report. I do like the new quick release fittings on the torch to the water cooler. I was hoping the water cooler would turn on with the new welder, but not.

Thanks Everlast for sending me a good machine.

[GUNNER]

I have been welding two days with the new 250EX, no problems to report. I do like the new quick release fittings on the torch to the water cooler. I was hoping the water cooler would turn on with the new welder, but not.

Thanks Everlast for sending me a good machine.

That's a simple fix that I had to do on the EXT as well... Mark has that very machine and could post up how to do this if he wants to help you.. I'll tell you how.... Cut the cooler cord off long enough to reach inside the machine and connect it to the switched side of the 220VAC breaker used to turn on the machine. Pick up a 220VAC cord cap male and female at HomeDepot and splice it into the cord and now the cooler can be connected and disconnected from the machine the way it should have been designed from the get go.. It cost about 10 bucks to do and cures that problem of turning on two devices every time you power up ...

[todmorg]

While GUNNER posted a possible fix, this fix could create possible breaker tripping issues due to the cooler and welder current being combined through the welder's circuit breaker and the input power cord could create a possible low input voltage condition due to cord losses.

A better solution is to switch the input voltage via either a mechanical or solid-state relay that has its coil/power terminals connected to the breaker's switched side and the relay's NO contacts connected to the non switched side of the breaker. This solution would add minimal current through the breaker since the current draw through the relay is much less than the current draw of the cooler.

As stated above, it is also possible the welder's power cord might need to be upgraded to accomodate the additional current through it -> the additional current draw could cause an excessive voltage drop across it reducing the input power to the inverter and cooler, and/or the cord may get very hot due to losses...

The 250EXT cord would HAVE to be upgraded, it is only slightly heavier than 14 Gauge ( no joke ), The 250EX has a MUCH heavier cord.

I've tied my ex and ext coolers to the input side of the switches and use the breaker in the panel to switch the welders and coolers on at the same time. I know, breakers are not switches, but this lets me start the welders and not forget the coolers.

If you do like Gunner, you can also use an old computer cord, the end that would normally go into the PC power supply fits the Everlast cooler perfect.

[GUNNER]

I fixed the EXT the way I posted and like I said it was a cheap and easy.... You could wire both devices into a service disconnect and flip one handle as well... It can done as easy or as complicated as you feel the need for.. However mine never flipped a breaker ... You could also ......eh what's the use in posting ideas anyway because there will always be someone here that thinks they know better.... I didn't say it was the only way I said it was a good and easy way... It works looks factory and requires little if any skills or parts... A simple cord cap and 5 minutes time... There's always a better mouse trap..

[srp]

I want to cut through the chase, will rewiring the cooler to turn on with the welder, with or without a relay effect the warranty?

[GUNNER]

I want to cut through the chase, will rewiring the cooler to turn on with the welder, with or without a relay effect the warranty?

Seriously? -------------------------------> NO ! Why would it? Oleg don't care where it get's it's power from.. I spoke with Oleg about how I wired my unit and found he really don't care where it get's it's power from.. Go ahead and ask him but it will be about as big a waste of time as asking him if you should wipe your tail towards the front or the back! I don't think Oleg will much care..

As for Ken saying yes........ Well you can take that with a grain of salt because he'll argue with anything I post. If I posted the sky is blue he would argue .... Both Todd and I wired our cooler up the way I explained and it worked fine... On more than one occasion while testing the machine out I maxed the amps and held it there and it never kicked the breaker.... You can also see where Mark made several comments on a thread where the 250EXTs where first hitting the customers doors and they were asking about the baby cord supplied with the machine and Mark posted how little current the machine actually draws from the box.. Now I did step my power cord up to a #10 size cord to supply the power to the machine and tossed the lamp cord supplied with the machine.

Again you can get a service disconnect mount it to the wall and run both cords in there and flip one handle if you want. You can add a relay inside the machine if you want.. You can make the whole deal work from remote control if you want. You can make it where your smart phone can activate it from across town if you want.

There is no right or wrong way unless you skimp on the wire size required for the current draw of the device. What I specified worked without fail and will cost nearly nothing to do and anyone with basic electrical knowledge and some hand tools can do it in 30 minutes or less and make it look factory installed. Adding a relay is a fine way to do this job but totally un needed for this job. The amp draw of the cooler pump won't be changing as it runs at a constant demand. With that in mind if it's going to fail it will fail when you first flip the breaker.

[Oleg]

Seriously? -------------------------------> NO ! Why would it? Oleg don't care where it get's it's power from.. I spoke with Oleg about how I wired my unit and found he really don't care where it get's it's power from.. Go ahead and ask him but it will be about as big a waste of time as asking him if you should wipe your tail towards the front or the back! I don't think Oleg will much care..

SRP warranty will NOT be voided in any way

[Oleg]

Oleg, so modifying the welder/plasma cutter won't void the warranty? That's good to know.

kenwhite

In this case no, i already noted his profile

[GUNNER]

GUNNER .. you know me well by now .. SRP warranty will NOT be voided in any way

Haha... I wouldn't go that far my friend. I wouldn't say I know anything about you, but I do think I have an idea of how valuable your time is to waste it on small BS like an extension cord!! LOL !!!

[Oleg]

Guys ..... please )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[Ray]

I repair most of the larger machines, I have seen many minor modifications, power cords, jacks for coolers etc. my position is if it didn’t cause or aggravate the failure I don’t worry about it.
Now if you’re in there modifying the way it works, IE: installing some third party plasma CNC interface and it causes a short and catches fire, you’re on your own.

So yea, it's on a case by case basis, I think we are more than fair, just use your head. If you fry the solenoid relay for instance the biggest issue for us is liable to be over the shipping.
I been known to do some McGivering myself, but you have to take responsibility if you Eff it up.

[srp]

Thanks for the input Ray, Oleg. Its little things like this and the good customer service plus a very good welder, that will keep me coming back.

[Grizzly1944]

Hey Boys,

Don't you think it's time to move on. Let's get some water past this Dam. Many of us have much to learn from the both of you, and it's time to let this bad stuff go.

I say this with lots of respect for the both of you!

[Jake98]

I think I'd just throw the two switches. Don't you guys ever use the air cooled torches?