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    I bought an 80 Ar from airgas today, biggest they would sell, $175. full. I'm getting used to getting ripped off. They said the gas was free in it. I said Duh-okay..

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    I had been dealing with national/airgas and didn't like their service at all. They wouldn't lease a large bottle to me. So today I called another shop who said I could get any size I want with a 99 year lease. It's $280 for a 381 ft3 bottle of C25 and $61 for refills.
    The C25 is for my new I-MIG 250p and I'll trade in my 160 argon bottle for a 335 when it's empty. I know those prices are higher than some people pay but it's a whole lot better than the local national/airgas.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake98 View Post
    I bought an 80 Ar from airgas today, biggest they would sell, $175. full. I'm getting used to getting ripped off. They said the gas was free in it. I said Duh-okay..
    Jack98, I walked in my first AirGas a couple weeks ago (new one local here now). I would give them a D (store was pretty inside so no F). I feel for you if that is all you have in your area. I am sure not all Air Gas locations are ran the same, but the one here, give me a break... And 200 feet from WSI who I have used for many years (and everyone I know no less), they are looking to close down in a year for sure. I will never step foot in there again, but I had to look. I would never think someone could make PraxAir look good.

    Best to look for a small local guy if you can find one, they are not everywhere. That's normally the best as they try harder. We have a Welder Services Inc, they are more of a mid size WS and it's a shame there aren't more of them. The guys there are great. Straight shooters, but I prefer that myself.

    Also, the above comments are related to my area and my experience, I know others are going to have great guys at there locations, just stating what we have here so Jake98 knows it's not him or his area.

    An 80 is pretty small for TIG, it will go fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    I had been dealing with national/airgas and didn't like their service at all. They wouldn't lease a large bottle to me. So today I called another shop who said I could get any size I want with a 99 year lease. It's $280 for a 381 ft3 bottle of C25 and $61 for refills.
    The C25 is for my new I-MIG 250p and I'll trade in my 160 argon bottle for a 335 when it's empty. I know those prices are higher than some people pay but it's a whole lot better than the local national/airgas.
    That is not a bad deal really, I pay about $70 for 250's. I think you are going the right direction. Only problem, my bigger than 300 tank is well over 160lbs+ empty, so get a dolly or service deal with them.
    Mike R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    That is not a bad deal really, I pay about $70 for 250's. I think you are going the right direction. Only problem, my bigger than 300 tank is well over 160lbs+ empty, so get a dolly or service deal with them.
    It's a 300 size (T) they just put 381 ft3 of c25 in them. it's 335 ft3 for pure argon. Anyway I'm 6'3" 312lb and could carry one in each hand if they had a handle.
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    I picked up my bottle today at welders supply house... these guys are much easier to deal with than national/airgas. They even gave me a free renewal when my 99 year lease is up.
    I'm waiting on one more part to come in and I can try out my new I-MIG 250p.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerky View Post
    heres a thought, if your getting shocked at BOTH school and work, then it stands to reason that its not really the table, and more or less something your doing. as far as ive read, your the only variable thats in both cases. maybe your just prone to getting shocked. like how some people kill watches, there electrically charged.
    You know, jerky, you may be on to something there.
    I get that little zap (kind of like a tingle in my skin, not enough to hurt, just to tickle a little) when i'm welding and rest anything other than a THICKLY gloved hand on the grounded work area. It happens when i'm well insulated from the floor, or not, whether i ground the table, the part directly, or sitting or standing at a fixture any kind of shoe (thick soles, thin soles) or if i'm wearing my welding jacket or not, or just a long sleeve hoodie. And, it happens with different welders: miller, lincoln, everlast... ac/dc, pulsed... everything.

    I am one of those 'electrically charged' people. I can kill a 'lifetime' watch battery in about a week if i wear it on bare skin, and i have to use a phone holster that clips on my belt and holds the phone away from me, otherwise it'll get toasted in a couple of months. I spend a fortune in batteries...
    ... and oddly enough, i build up 'static charge' all the time.

    I can't help but think that my electromagnetic field may be at a different frequency than the welders' and i get a sort of 'feedback' when i become part of the circuit.

    ... we should start a study on it, and apply for grants. We'll need lots of welders and materials to conduct our study. We can call it "Effects of Human Electromagnetic Interference in Welding Practices"... and then add "... and it's effects on global warming." We'll get millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    It's a 300 size (T) they just put 381 ft3 of c25 in them. it's 335 ft3 for pure argon. Anyway I'm 6'3" 312lb and could carry one in each hand if they had a handle.
    Yow Hope you weren't the runt of the litter must put your parents in the poor house feeding you lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67cudafb View Post
    Yow Hope you weren't the runt of the litter must put your parents in the poor house feeding you lol.
    I was the only boy out of 4. My mother was 5'7" and my father 5'9". I kept growing until age 23... food was cheap when I was a kid and all didn't come from a grocer.
    2013 250EX : SSC Pedal : I-MIG 250P 20' Profax gun : Power Plasma 60 p80 torch : 3M Speedglas 9100XX : Evolution Rage 3 DB cold saw

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