going to get an argon bottle for my new tig set up. Looking for some input on what the going rates are so I know if I am getting bent or not.
Looking to get a 125 or 180cf bottle
going to get an argon bottle for my new tig set up. Looking for some input on what the going rates are so I know if I am getting bent or not.
Looking to get a 125 or 180cf bottle
sold my miller mig
got a PT250EX
saving up for a plasma cutter
I forget what I paid for the bottle.(I think it was $180 plus the fill) but every time I get it swapped out it only costs my around $28.
This is a 125 CF and I own it. It's the biggest one I could get without going to a leas or rent and is;s about perfect for home use.
Hello,
I will tell you this much. I made the mistake of buying two 40 cubic foot tanks. Its about $30 bucks to get refilled. For the 185 cubic foot (whatever the largest size is) that I bought is a little more than $40 to refill. So not difficult math to figure out. Thats almost 5 times more gas for 1/4 more in cost. With gas, as long as you close the main valve its not going anywhere. I went through those 40 cubic footers fast. So I ended up craigslisting the two 40 cubic foot tanks and got some of my money back. Your basicly paying for the energy it takes to bottle it up. Your gonna waist a lot of money with a smaller tank. One piece of good advice? Air/gas has sales every so often on tanks. I think payed $200 for the largest tank filled. I have welded for atleast 6 hours on it so far without it getting low. Though I know its getting close because of that pressure curve. Hope this helps
My 330cf argon cost me $300 filled to buy outright. Refills are $75 each for both of my 330cf bottles of straight Argon, and C25.
Gerald
Millermatic 251
Spectrum 300 Plasma
Everlast PowerTig 250EX
Everlast PowerCool W300
Harris / Victor OA
Craftsman 13 Speed Drill Press
ProTools Air/Hydraulic Bender
48" Brake, 72" Brake, 52" Stomp Shear
Mitler Bros. 36" High Throat Bead Roller
Compressor, Notchers, Grinders, etc.
Pricing seems to vary by region. If there is a place that refills argon cheaply but they are halfway across the country, that doesn't do you any good, can't just ship a big gas bottle out to have it filled, needs to be local. So IMO the only relevant prices to determine if you are getting "jacked" are the other welding supplies that are available to you locally.
In greater seattle area, I get mine at Central Welding, and my 150cf bottle (customer owned) costs thirty something or forty something to exchange for a full one. They are cheaper than Airgas and Praxair, which comprise all the other local welding supplies for me (at least that I'm aware of.)
I gradually upsized my bottle from a 55 to an 80, to a 150. I recall the last bottle upgrade, I figured I'd pay back after 3 or so refills. The 150cf is the biggest size that fits in the back seat of my car.
'13 Everlast 255EXT
'07 Everlast Super200P
Also ask for multi year lease optionI can lease a 330 for $45 for 1 year or I can lease it for $90 for three years. some lws don't tell you this up front. I live in maine and pay about 80 for a 330 refile its less in New Hampshire but at $4.00 pr. gal. of diesel. I would not be saving any $$.
Miller Trailblazer 301
Miller CST 250
Miller Super32sp
Hypertherm Power max 1000
330 refills here are $75-80. I recommend as large a tank as you can move around. The 150s are $34-38 to fill here. I have talk to guys that get 150 done in the twenties, but that does not happen here.
Mike R.
Email: admineverlast@everlastwelders.com
www.everlastgenerators.com
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877-755-9353 x203
M-F 12 - 7PM PST
FYI: PP50, PP80, IMIG-200, IMIG-250P, 210EXT and 255EXT.
65.00 here on 330's. I wouldn't go with anything less.
But Rugar, I am surprised that they will let you pick it up in a car. They won't let us load in a car here. They don't even like to load it laying down in a truck.
Mark
performance@everlastwelders.com
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Gerald
Millermatic 251
Spectrum 300 Plasma
Everlast PowerTig 250EX
Everlast PowerCool W300
Harris / Victor OA
Craftsman 13 Speed Drill Press
ProTools Air/Hydraulic Bender
48" Brake, 72" Brake, 52" Stomp Shear
Mitler Bros. 36" High Throat Bead Roller
Compressor, Notchers, Grinders, etc.
I recently priced out a local small shop vs airgas and wow what a difference. small shop quoted me for 150cf bottle and argon $225..... airgas $380 O.o
I try to give my business to the small guys most of the time anyway , gonna look on craigs list for something used with a decent cert date on it also I would like a larger bottle but cant afford it and all the shops around here want to rent by the day or sell you one.
Good luch on your search and hope this helped you
Don
MTS 200 workhorse
PowerTig 250EX <---sweet
80 amp HF inverter arc welder
Lincoln Buzzbox
Rotobrute AC-35 Mag Drill
Milwaukee mag drill
HF Heavy Duty 16 Speed Bench Drill Press (Custom made Adjustable Height stand)
I gotta find more junk to sell on EBaY ... Must Buy a Plasma Cutter and a Mig Welder
Fullerton, Ca
USA
At my local welding shop I believe I pay around $150-160 for a five year lease on a 154 cf bottle and the fills are just shy of $50.
Armed with some rates, I found the prices were all over the board. 175$ for 5 years for a 150 and 66$ a fill to 54$ a year for a 330 and 40$ a fill. Looks like I am going with the 330 and on top of that they are right by the shop and are open on Saturdays.
Also found out the 330 was better gas...they said its vacuamed?
sold my miller mig
got a PT250EX
saving up for a plasma cutter
Cert dates don't mean squat because when you get a refill, they give you a different bottle; they don't fill your bottle while you wait.
I always rotate my bottles by date to be sure that I don't have an expired cert date. Highway patrol writes tickets if they happen to look at your tanks during a traffic stop and notice an outdated cert. When I do find an expired tank, I work that one through the rotation and then trade it for a full one.
Hobart Handler 175
Hobart Iron Man 230 with spool gun
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
Makita Cold Cut Saw
Possible future addition:
Lincoln Invertec V311
or Miller Dynasty 350
or ???
All tanks are supposed to be vacuumed, but many places that lease skip that step. In Az, we buy our tanks, so we can buy the tank from the cheapest source for tank sales, then refill from the cheapest source for refills. $232 for a new 180 (I think) CF tank with c25; refills will be $40
Last edited by A/C Guy; 03-15-2011 at 02:03 AM.
Hobart Handler 175
Hobart Iron Man 230 with spool gun
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
Makita Cold Cut Saw
Possible future addition:
Lincoln Invertec V311
or Miller Dynasty 350
or ???
I refilled my 330 tank on Friday and it was $80.58 at my local Scott Gross. I buy all my tanks so I can shop price. and I go for the large tanks because you can never save to much fuel in the truck at todays price. And the time saved is great also.
SHOP SETUP
Esab Migmaster 250
Everlast PowerPlasma 50
Miller Dynasty 200 DX TIG
CNC Express SQ Mill
CNC Lathe 1236
Plate Shear 12"
12" Slip Roll
4 Ton Notcher
4 Ton Hand Punch
52" 18 Gauge Foot Shear
48" Pan & Box Brake
Spot Welder
50" Slip Roll
English Wheel
Bead Roller
Planishing Hammer
60" Hand Brake
7" x 12" Bandsaw
Hand Tools
Shop (TOO SMALL !!!!! )
I don't owe anyone a dime, but I get paid to lay them down
I pay $17 for my 40cf bottle filled with c25
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Everlast Power I-MIG 200
Everlast PowerUltra 205P
Everlast SM 200-N
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 42
picked up the 330 this weekend - wow it was heavy. Got it home and got it all strapped and chained into the cart. Found there prices for filler rod wasent too bad so I also picked up some mild steel filler rod. So now I pretty much just waiting on my 250ex to show up.
sold my miller mig
got a PT250EX
saving up for a plasma cutter
i think i paid 245 to lease and to fill up is 40 bucks
Aaron
I just upgraded to a 162cu ft tank from a 80cu ft tank my LWS charges $39.64 to fill the 162 cu ft tank I was paying $28.05 to fill the 80cu ft tank so I get twice the gas for an additional $11.59 and less trips to the LWS. The 162 cu ft tank runs $266.33. They call it (user owned) they just exchange the tank when it empty for the $39.64. If you are going to Tig weld you will want the bigger tank. If you have to start with a smaller tank check to see if you can upgrade down the road.
Power Tig 250 EX
Miller 211 Mig
Hobart Stickmate LX
Victor Torch