Welder dust cover....Where are they?...Vote/Poll...Who's in?

Welder dust cover....Where are they?...Vote/Poll/Suggestions...Who's in?

I realize this is somewhat of a vague question/topic....due to so many sizes/configurations....but, why is it so difficult to find something designed to cover up my welder, plasma cutter etc....?

I know Miller and Lincoln make them for their machines......but those would look terrible on my Green one.

I suppose this could be directed at the Everlast Marketing group or maybe Sales dept.

Blue and Red covers run about $50......Crazy!....for 5 squares of vinyl or cloth sewn together...jst Crazy!
I would think about $20 max cost....cuz U know they would come from yonder.

Cmon Everlast, Step it up!.....LOL

Im sure covers would be a big HIT, with many of the dedicated individuals on here that treat their equipment with the care it deserves.

As mentioned earlier, i know there are a Lot of Green box sizes available....now and from the past......as i was reading this thread http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...344-Dimensions

Im not sure what would be of best design for material tho....so feel free to chime in...voice your opinion as to what U would like/prefer/recommend.

Possible materials and thots:

Green soft cloth, like denim (very flexible in all temps and washable)....with Everlast Logo

Clear vinyl (so we can still see the Green beauty)

Universal black vinyl, with cotton backing (like a grill cover)...with a white Everlast logo on it....totally cool looking :D

others?....please post em!

I would think maybe 3 or 4 general sizes would cover things up rather well.....pun intended!....and keep cost down.
And/Or....offer a universal kit of said material to cut and sew together....shouldnt be that hard now.
Of course, then we could make custom covers to fit our loaded carts as well.
Hmmmm, maybe even use strips of velcro for those that cant sew....kinda like those who cant tie thier own shoes....lol

Sooooo, lets here it.....whats your thots? :confused:

Green, rip-stop nylon with a black border and stitching would be nice, light and cheap. I'd buy them for all my machines.

Zactly, That does sound pretty cool.....Black border on Green.
altho, what is the rip-stop nylon?

Logo....cant forget the Logo!

Thats my whole pt......keeping things Cheap...so that everyone will buy one...or more for their machines

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Originally Posted by wileyone123

Zactly, That does sound pretty cool.....Black border on Green.
altho, what is the rip-stop nylon?

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https://www.google.com/search?num=10...abkFkDN0#spd=0

You can stitch your own cover up using a cheapy sewing machine if you don't use too heavy of a fabric/material. Here is the quickie cover I threw together for the last machine I had, but you can't run the heavy vinyl and scrim backed 1/2" foam through one of those machines, so a walking foot machine is needed. Obviously with the vinyl it's not machine washable. :D My next welding cover for the new 250EX will be much simpler though, and I might include some lime green satin that I have from a wholesale fabric purchase.

Indeed, Nice color match on the cover........altho, my eyes hurt a little bit now.....lol

Yes, i knw it wld/shld be easy enough to stitch together some pcs as U have done.....but many may not hv the resources/time/patience etc to be an amateur seamstress.
Im sure if there was an option to Buy 1 for about $20.....none of us would consider making our own....yourself included.
But as it is, we are not so lucky yet as the Everlast team still has to produce any sort of cover that im aware of......hint-hint
Hopefully, with enough interest from others in this thread, they will get the ball rolling.....so to say.

So far, im all in on the ripstop nylon fabric.....or some sort of nylon material.
Im thinkin its very light....as far as thickness.....kinda like wind-breaker material.
altho tough and water repellent, id like jst a bit heavier i think.
at about $7/yd, its very inexpensive.
and for sure, the Color is spot on......altho a bit hard on the eyes, if looking directly at it, a #5 lens may be req'd here......LOL

i think im gonna chk out th local JoAnn fabrics shop at the mall and see what i can drum up on material.
otherwise, ill go with the lightweight ripstop.

still, open for other suggestions as well.....on all accounts

I like the idea of a cover, but the problem I see with ripstop is that if any spark hits it it will melt a hole in it.

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Originally Posted by Seshan

I like the idea of a cover, but the problem I see with ripstop is that if any spark hits it it will melt a hole in it.

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Very true. I take the lazy way out and usually just drape a flame resistant cotton welding jacket over the machine when I'm done. It's even green, although not a color match. ;)

A few small holes in the cover wld be a good thing....as it allows it to Breathe....kinda like Gortex.....lol

True, nylon has its cons(easy burn >)....but, the cover is to protect the machine from dust/dirt and debris if its in a dirt area.
Another possibility would be to spray (any cloth material) with a flame retardant spray.

I suppose we could use flame-suit material....but there goes the whole low cost objective i was shooting for....lol

I do like the nylon thot of material....would jst prefer a heavier gauge than the ripstop thin stuff.
I will try to get to a local chain, JoAnn fabrics, and see what they have to offer.

Still, this thread welcomes all pros, cons, criticism and outside the box ideas for material, function and purpose of said welder covers.

keep em coming!

thnx

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Originally Posted by Seshan

I like the idea of a cover, but the problem I see with ripstop is that if any spark hits it it will melt a hole in it.

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No problem since we wouldn't use the machine with the cover on. Ripstop nylon would make it thin enough to fold and fit in a standard drawer.

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Originally Posted by zoama

No problem since we wouldn't use the machine with the cover on. Ripstop nylon would make it thin enough to fold and fit in a standard drawer.

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its a storage/dust cover.....not intending to protect the unit from all elements the shop has to offer.

there is basic function...and then there is bullet-proof design.
from a cost perspective, im wanting to stay with the basics.

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Originally Posted by wileyone123

Indeed, Nice color match on the cover........altho, my eyes hurt a little bit now.....lol

Yes, i knw it wld/shld be easy enough to stitch together some pcs as U have done.....but many may not hv the resources/time/patience etc to be an amateur seamstress.
Im sure if there was an option to Buy 1 for about $20.....none of us would consider making our own....yourself included.
But as it is, we are not so lucky yet as the Everlast team still has to produce any sort of cover that im aware of......hint-hint
Hopefully, with enough interest from others in this thread, they will get the ball rolling.....so to say.

So far, im all in on the ripstop nylon fabric.....or some sort of nylon material.
Im thinkin its very light....as far as thickness.....kinda like wind-breaker material.
altho tough and water repellent, id like jst a bit heavier i think.
at about $7/yd, its very inexpensive.
and for sure, the Color is spot on......altho a bit hard on the eyes, if looking directly at it, a #5 lens may be req'd here......LOL

i think im gonna chk out th local JoAnn fabrics shop at the mall and see what i can drum up on material.
otherwise, ill go with the lightweight ripstop.

still, open for other suggestions as well.....on all accounts

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There simply isn't a profit margin for Everlast to produce welder covers. Too many owners like yourself already have a set price in mind of what they think a welding cover should cost, regardless of what the manufacture tells you they can produce them for. It's like going into a new car dealership and telling them you only have $5000 to spend and you'd like to see your options. On top of that, weldors are resourceful people and most will find something that suits the purpose for covering their welder without having to spend additional money. Old bed sheets, blankets, shirts (etc) are easy enough to get.

A year and a half ago I whipped up the idea to produce green welding covers for the members of this forum who were interested. After crunching numbers, I soon realized this would be a losing proposition right out of the gate. Now factor in that everyone wants options, like a different material, a different color, and a different design welding cover.

Then there's the fact we have different welding/cutting machines with different dimensions. That dimensions thread is the last place I'd trust for accurate dimensions, so now what? Rely on the owners of these units to provide correct dimensions? What happens if they give incorrect dimensions and the cover doesn't fit? There is no way you could ever please everyone in this situation. Plus you really need the unit in front of you to produce a cover with the nicest fit.

Overall, I can see why nobody has stepped up yet to produce welding covers. It's a luxury that not everyone wants to begin with....sort of like a car cover. Maybe 60% of the population wants one, but in reality, 20% are willing to pay for one (or see an actual need for one). I think half of the covers would get destroyed or lost after a few years anyways. Just my 2 cents. :)

Well now, arent U jst the party-pooper!...lol

I do see your point on a few issues mentioned.

Hence why i mentioned of maybe 3-4 universal sizes.
More than likely, in 1 color only....without options.

Blue offers a cover specifically for a given model....and charges a premium for it (about $50 for a 200DX cover)
As U, I and most everyone else on this forum knows, a Blue equivalent welder is about 3X +/- the cost of Green.
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Given that ratio, im thinkin a Green cover could easily be producing a Nice profit for Everlast if they were about $20.
We all know the cost of manufacturing is substantially lower overseas....unlike what U, I or others would want in the US to produce it.
Yes, that would be a losing battle.

With all the $ spent on welders n such, im thinkin many people like myself wouldnt mind spending a Fair price for a product that helps keep our investment in nice condition. I believe Zoama said he'd buy 1 for each of his units as well....considering they were of reasonable cost.

I think all would agree....$50 is simply legal theft.....for Blue material which is most likely produced overseas....at a fraction of the cost.

I would also think that if U could have purchased a cover at a fair price, U would have done so.....rather than spending a considerable amount of time making the quality piece U did with all the fancy black stitching.
I can clearly see why it wld be hard to make a profit with a cover like that.

I realize a cover wouldnt hit the market in the time frame i or others would like.
At worst, im polling for other/better ideas so that When i make my own, im completely happy with it.
Yes, welders and many other skilled tradesman are resourceful and find a way to make what they specifically want (as U did)....and i will.

I suppose when $ is no option, no one cares about spending hard earned cash on an overpriced piece of material.
I however am not that fortunate.
But when things are fairly priced and its cost is within reason, we dont mind doing so.
Which is Exactly why i purchased Green.....i simply cldnt afford $4k for a hobby.
Hence, it has left a lot more Green in my pocket (as others said it would), allowing me to invest in a decent looking cover.

I do appreciate your thots/opinions on the issue.
I was simply hoping that with enough interest generated on the issue, that Higher Green powers would consider a small investment to make its thousands of consumers a little happier.

thnx

I really think you have a good idea here and I didn't mean to be a Debbie-downer. Just my point of view after deciding to NOT go down that road. I ended up buying the green marine grade vinyl in bulk (like 5 yards at a time), which means you could probably find someone that could REALLY get a discount price by buying 20 or 30 yards at a time (of whatever material everyone could agree on). If that was the case, someone could easily produce some general sizes of covers at a reasonable cost.

The best idea would be to fit a cover to each model of welder/plasma cutter, and just have a pattern on hand of each one. Of course you would need to have access to all the different machines, which Everlast obviously does. This is assuming they don't have changes in the dimensions as models are updated from year to year. Everlast owners as a whole, are cheap/poor (I call myself budget-minded...poverty is such a negative sounding word!;))....The price of my 250EX was a great deal of money for me to spend, yet it won't even get a red or blue welder salesman to give me the time of day! Hell, I'd be lucky to buy a used Miller off of Craigslist for what the 250EX cost! Believe me, I completely understand being broke (Oops, I mean "on a budget").:P

I do understand the road U went down wasnt an easy one.
Nor is being financially set to buy Color of choice....hence why i too am Here.
Ebay and CL simply didnt offer what i cld afford after months of research....and i came to realize sacrifices had to be made.
So far, i dont believe i will regret it.....at least for the next 5 yrs.....or until my warranty runs out....whichever comes 1st....lol

After seeing the thread on machine sizes(how many there were).....i simply dont believe that making one (or having a pattern) for each machine simply isnt a realistic decision for anyone...even the manufacturer......back to the idea of 3-4 general sizes.
BTW, i did NOT compare all the sizes to see which machines used the same cases.....quite possibly reducing the total # of sizes needed.

I dont believe 1-2" difference in width, length and height wouldnt be a big deal as for Fit.
Or, make sizes for the top moving models....which i believe is what others do.
Jst sayin, i happen to think there is a market here....at a minimal investment to the consumer.

Still, im patiently waiting(hoping) that someone at Headquarters will chime in on the subject....good or bad.
Ar worst, maybe they toss the idea out there and see what happens.

in the meantime, im still gathering ideas for mine.

We took a look at things a while back. We had some samples made and evaluated them. None were to our satisfaction, and did not look good either. We've dealt with enough customers to know that while a few may not care how they fit, most would feel poorly toward us if they did not have a glove fit. We weren't satisfied with the appearance, but we also have to take into consideration things like flame retardance etc. This is a liability. We've taken a step back from it since so many new units and new panels have been introduced. Each change requires a new cover. And while you may think that we could make a profit at 20.00, it would not be worth that profit margin to fool with it unless we were about 80 percent of a Miller or Lincoln. There's a lot more to it than just paying the per piece cost to the factory. There's minimum production which is usually quite substantial. There's shipping, import fees, tariffs, and customer broker charges you have to figure in, then the cost of warehouse space and staffing etc. Everything you do needs to generate realistic sales figures. While we're not saying no, we are also saying if/when one comes out, it'll cost more than you might think.

Thnx Mark...for Stepping up!

Your right, lots of other factors consumers(and myself)are not aware of in regards to total cost.

Altho, like lots of things, a Disclaimer goes a long ways when it comes to Liability.
As another mentioned....folding said cover up and putting in a drawer during use.
Altho tig doesnt emit as a plasma/mig/stick, there always has to be some use of Common Sense.
There are many that dont remove combustibles, flammables, rags and the such during welding.....let alone have a fire extinguisher handy.
Its nearly impossible to account for every human error.....hence why the Safety and Warning pages are so extensive in the front of the manual (that few, or not enough, seem to ever read).

Another thot, to solve the inventory/stocking issues etc tht U mentioned......simply send a cover with every New unit!
Im Certain tht NO One would complain about it.
Problem solved!....lol

Its nice to know that folks at Everlast cared enough about the poor looks/quality of the cover to say NO to an inferior item.
Its a shame the designer didnt go back to the drawing board and correct things.

Regardless, thnx again for your Input....as im sure many have never heard what went on behind the scenes in regards to the design/thots of covers for your machines.

As mentioned, i was sure they wldnt be in production by the time i wanted one.....so my Quest continues....for a design and function tht appeals to me.

The cost of the machine has little to do with the cost of the cover, so comparing a Miller cover (which I bet is made in China) with comparable quality cover would cost about the same. Also Miller may even sell them at a low margin and plan on making it up on the machine. I have often gotten a cover "thrown in" with the deal of buying a new machine from a number of companies. Most were too time consuming to use and languished in a drawer somewhere. The few good ones got plenty of use. I like the idea of a cover, but totally understand most of the issues with them. Universal covers tend to be a real one size fits nothing proposition, for grills, cars, bikes, etc. If I want a nice cover I would just make one or have it made. I've had a few made to order at a local auto upholstery shop and been very happy with the fit and the price. Plus I get just what I want. Maybe Everlast can offer sew on patches instead. Good for jackets as well as welder covers. I would think that would be a cost effective bit of swag they could sell.
As for me, I would probably go with something like black or grey denim with green stitching and logo. Light enough to fold up, but a little more durable and spark resistant than nylon. I would just have it made to order to fit my machine just the way I want. As has been mentioned there are way too many options about fitment. Like with or without the cables, filter dryers, regulators, etc. Everyone has their own idea of what a perfect fit is.

Great post and thots....thnx much :)

True, 1 Universal size would suck and look like crap.
I like custom fit things as well, but thot maybe 3-4 sizes would bring things into perspective for looks/function.
I like the idea of a Patch....or even an Iron-on logo (even cheaper)

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Originally Posted by wileyone123

Great post and thots....thnx much :)

True, 1 Universal size would suck and look like crap.
I like custom fit things as well, but thot maybe 3-4 sizes would bring things into perspective for looks/function.
I like the idea of a Patch....or even an Iron-on logo (even cheaper)

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Iron-on you can do yourself with the right printer paper. But after washing a few times and folding it, iron-ons tend to start cracking and look pretty bad.
That reminds me there is a tee shirt shop near me with one of those CNC embroidery machines. I guess I can just get my own patch, if I want.

Might as well make the entire cover iron-on. When you have to use the welder, peel it off, use the machine, and then iron another one on. Voila! No expensive cover needed!

I cheap out and just use old towels some day I might find some green ones.

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This thread is silly. The risk of metal or other particles from a typical workshop (especially a shop with milling equipment) accumulating inside the welder and causing a problem or a fire is something to worry about far in excess of any cosmetic or liability issues arising from the cover itself, which are non-existant. I finally just cut a square piece of plastic drop cloth and put it around my PowerPro 256 with a bungee cord. Ugly but problem solved.

Dust covers are heavily marked up items, like undercoating for cars, with the idea that if you don't buy it you are risking your $$$$ actual device/car/sailboat/plane/whatever.

The idea that the raw materials are expensive is absurd. You can buy 4ft x 5ft transparent welding curtains from McMaster for $22, which as we all know is about 300% the cost you'd get for the same thing from China (or AirGas for that matter), who then also mark their stuff up to make a profit. And those screens are for use around welding, not as a mere cover, so any flammability concerns are moot.

I think Everlast just has other things to focus on, which is reasonable. Seems like every time I go to the everlast site there are new cool welders and accessories and all at great prices.

But I think they should reconsider spending some time to make SOME kind of dust cover..I don't even want to think about whats all over my welder circuit boards from the 4 years of that fan running in my machine shop before I made the dust cover. :O

LONG LIVE THE POWER PRO 256!!!

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Originally Posted by acannell

This thread is silly.

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Why on earth would This thread be 'silly' ?
The comment seems unjustified.....and the post contradictive.
I was simply wanting to get ideas/thots for a cover...and possibly even twist someones arm(Everlast) to consider manufacture of said covers.

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Originally Posted by acannell

Dust covers are heavily marked up items, like undercoating for cars, with the idea that if you don't buy it you are risking your $$$$ actual device/car/sailboat/plane/whatever.

The idea that the raw materials are expensive is absurd. You can buy 4ft x 5ft transparent welding curtains from McMaster for $22, which as we all know is about 300% the cost you'd get for the same thing from China (or AirGas for that matter), who then also mark their stuff up to make a profit. And those screens are for use around welding, not as a mere cover, so any flammability concerns are moot.

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Agreed!...100%

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Originally Posted by acannell

I think Everlast just has other things to focus on, which is reasonable.......

But I think they should reconsider spending some time to make SOME kind of dust cover.

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If i understood correctly, this seems contradictive....???

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Originally Posted by acannell

I don't even want to think about whats all over my welder circuit boards from the 4 years of that fan running in my machine shop before I made the dust cover.

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Obviously, U agree there is a Need for covers....hence the plastic drop cloth on yours ...(flame retardant?....Hmmm)

Its simple, there are situations that having a dust cover is needed/preferred....and at worst, helpful.

Other company's make them for the same reasons.
Im sure that if covers were reasonably priced, most everyone(non-commercial) would own one for their machine........and use it!

Again, Why would this thread be silly?.......as it has been very helpful to me so far.
I think i am going to make a cover for the whole welding cart...and not just the welder.
....as i plan on installing the plasma cutter on it as well.
Cart mods currently being done to my likings.

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Originally Posted by wileyone123

Why on earth would This thread be 'silly' ?
The comment seems unjustified.....and the post contradictive.

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sorry, not the thread, the ideas about just how difficult and complex it is to get a simple product like a dust cover to market.

I think its just slipping through the cracks at everlast, but the consolation is that they have been up to very good things instead..

Also, I dont understand the need for a welder dust cover to have any special flame retardant nature beyond what a typical weld curtain would be made of. My welder is surrounded by flammable materials and the last thing I'm worried about is the dust cover catching fire. How about the workbenches, oily machinery, random pools of gas I leave laying around, sticks of dynamites, my cat etc..

It's not slipping through the cracks...It is a low profit, high labor type product. A term in economics called "normal" profits apply here. That's the cost it takes to make it, plus the "worth it" factor in relation to what offers the most bang for the buck for our staff, warehouse space and time we have. We've looked at it, and had some produced and they weren't satisfactory to our expectations. SURE...people say, we just want "something", yet when they get it, they are going to nitpick and nah nah everything to death and tell us the way it should be done for just "a couple pennies more" etc. No, this would satisfy noone, particularly when we weren't satisfied with what we got. And we have to be concerned about flame retardance. It's just not so simple in China where that kind of specialty fabric in the color you want, and additional materials are limited and minimum order quantities into the 10's of thousands of dollars are required to produce the fabric (as everything there these days are produced on "demand" instead of ready stocked and require minimum qty's). We have other priorities, and this is one low down on the list as it can get right now.

Mark,
Do you think everlast could make up some iron on type decals where if people made there own cover, we could at least make them look more official! ?

I personally think the whole Flame Retardant thing is over-rated.
Flame-proof is foolish overkill....obviously.
Flame retardant is mostly due to legality issues....but still, Guarantees Nothing!

Just wondering, is the Denim tig torch lead cover Flame-retardant?....if not, Why not?.....as it would be much more susceptible to fire hazards than any dust cover!
If so, change the dye to Green, and voila'....instant fabric source!
I highly doubt anyone has complained cuz the lead cover has been damaged or caught on fire.


There is absolutely no way of keeping everyone from having normal mishaps.....due to oversight, neglect or just plain stupidity. (mostly the latter)

As mentioned previously....adhere a disclaimer tag to the product....just like is done on a $5 pillow or mattress...."against Federal Law to remove this tag except by the consumer"
....or just like on plastic bags..... "keep out of reach from small children; product can cause suffocation".
There are disclaimers on common products every single day.....why should a simple dust cover be any different?

As cheap and easy as it would be to make a nylon cover (and work just fine for 98% of us), i would probably say a better choice for production should be some sort of a lightweight cloth or canvas.

I think Nylon would be just fine for dust and most grinder sparks(from a distance)...but not so much a berry from a welder or plasma cutter (just my .02).

Im all for Everlast offering some sort of stickers, patches or iron-ons.
Stickers and patches are simple marketing and advertisement tools....more so than an iron-ons.
Im actually surprised that they are not already offered.

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Just wondering, is the Denim tig torch lead cover Flame-retardant?....if not, Why not?.....as it would be much more susceptible to fire hazards than any dust cover!
If so, change the dye to Green, and voila'....instant fabric source!
I highly doubt anyone has complained cuz the lead cover has been damaged or caught on fire.

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Flame retardant is just another chemical treatment, and I would expect those are treated. The problem with your idea, is that I doubt Everlast even makes those. They just buy them from probably the torch supplier.

While they could probably buy some kind of generic cover to sell, as has been mentioned, people would whine about it for sure. So they would have to seek out another contract manufacturer to make them, and then you bump into volume and lead issues. Or farm it out to a small business in the US and the price would rise above what most people would want to pay. I totally understand this, but if enough people ask, then it might move up a little on that long list of things to look at. For now, anyone who really wants one can always have one made.

For a case of sticker shock you can price out what you want HERE

This PLACE also does customs and probably at a little more justifiable cost.

Or just seek out a local upholstery shop, seamstress, sailmaker, etc. and there you go.

This is much like the welding cart issue. Everlast does offer a generic welding cart. While not made specifically to suit their machines, it works good enough for those people that have no desire to build their own. But for something specific to the machines you own, most build their own. I think this works much better for a generic cart, than a generic cover, but maybe I'm wrong and a simple one size fits all cover would satisfy those looking for just protection?

Rambozo
You understand it pretty well. The cart is often picked apart too. It's a good one. I have two of them. Not perfect, but good and works fine. I've had people complain there weren't detailed instructions on how to assemble it, though it comes with a parts break down. Some people complain because they couldn't match up every screw or a washer was missing and insisted that I send the missing washer, though I know there are usually a couple left over, others complain that the cart did not fit their welder "well" enough, though there's plenty of room, they wanted a glove fit, some who said the scews were were too long for some parts, or that the water cooler had to go on the bottom shelf rather than the middle one...and then several engineering minded people who went through the rigamarole of explaining that we needed to tell the factory engineer that we needed to redesign this or that part and insisted we have them send them the "new" part when it was available.

After a while, you become a little jaded to some of the recommendations. Patches, iron ons etc, aren't really advertisements for us. It's cool, sure. But there's a cost attached to it that most people don't think about. Patches/iron ons usually don't get rolled out on the town to advertise. They stay put inside a dusty shop. If the name on the side of the welder isn't enough, then when people come into the shop, they aren't going to notice a small iron on patch. Sure you could say a cover without a patch won't tell people what the product is...but how many people run into someones shop just to see what type machinery they are using???How many people are going to even be able to tell you what they saw in the shop the next day?

And, if we did it, most people would request one "free". It might end up being free for them, but that is another cost added back to the cost of the welder eventually. The cycle never ends, and you loose sight of your main goals about improving the product and service. If someone is assigned to this task, this takes away from more important meaningful ones that they can accomplish that make more fiscal sense, especially with our smaller staff. No one at Everlast is at the point of sitting down and "looking" for something to do. There's always things neck deep to get done.

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Originally Posted by dsmabe

Mark,
Do you think everlast could make up some iron on type decals where if people made there own cover, we could at least make them look more official! ?

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It's funny you mention that. I was just thinking the other day, "If I make a cover for my welder, how can I make it look more authentic like the factory produced it?" The only thing I came up with is top stitching the angled "E" in the Everlast logo onto the cover's side panels. Then again, it may look good plain with minimal stitching too. I sure wish I could do embroidery!

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Rambozo
You understand it pretty well. The cart is often picked apart too. It's a good one. I have two of them. Not perfect, but good and works fine. I've had people complain there weren't detailed instructions on how to assemble it, though it comes with a parts break down. Some people complain because they couldn't match up every screw or a washer was missing and insisted that I send the missing washer, though I know there are usually a couple left over, others complain that the cart did not fit their welder "well" enough, though there's plenty of room, they wanted a glove fit, some who said the scews were were too long for some parts, or that the water cooler had to go on the bottom shelf rather than the middle one...and then several engineering minded people who went through the rigamarole of explaining that we needed to tell the factory engineer that we needed to redesign this or that part and insisted we have them send them the "new" part when it was available.

After a while, you become a little jaded to some of the recommendations. Patches, iron ons etc, aren't really advertisements for us. It's cool, sure. But there's a cost attached to it that most people don't think about. Patches/iron ons usually don't get rolled out on the town to advertise. They stay put inside a dusty shop. If the name on the side of the welder isn't enough, then when people come into the shop, they aren't going to notice a small iron on patch. Sure you could say a cover without a patch won't tell people what the product is...but how many people run into someones shop just to see what type machinery they are using???How many people are going to even be able to tell you what they saw in the shop the next day?

And, if we did it, most people would request one "free". It might end up being free for them, but that is another cost added back to the cost of the welder eventually. The cycle never ends, and you loose sight of your main goals about improving the product and service. If someone is assigned to this task, this takes away from more important meaningful ones that they can accomplish that make more fiscal sense, especially with our smaller staff. No one at Everlast is at the point of sitting down and "looking" for something to do. There's always things neck deep to get done.

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I agree with Mark completely. I have never seen a welding cover as something that will make others go out and buy an Everlast welder. My idea's on welding covers are mostly to make them look aesthetically pleasing to me, since I'm somewhat of a perfectionist. I don't even know that many people who weld anymore, and the ones I do know will probably never even show interest in seeing my welder and it's cover. And I wouldn't have interest in showing them anyways, even if they did. They know I have the welder, I know I have it, end of story.

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Originally Posted by dsmabe

Mark,
Do you think everlast could make up some iron on type decals where if people made there own cover, we could at least make them look more official! ?

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I keep thinking about stitching the Everlast "E" logo on my next cover, but I may decide to just leave it simple and plain. No sense in advertising to myself.

Low and behold!....it Exists!

Someone actually does/can make a welder cover at a reasonable cost.
Not saying i will be purchasing this tho....due to color/name(mostly).....but indeed, it exists.

http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-mig-welder-cover.html

the cover receives 4, 5-star reviews....however one person says its slightly heavier than T-shirt material......Hmmm
but all mention that it does Exactly what they want it to....keep dust and debris off of their investment.....at a very reasonable cost.
point made.

that said, id still luv to see some other Custom covers people have made.....such as the one youngnstudly posted. (thnx)

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Originally Posted by youngnstudly

I keep thinking about stitching the Everlast "E" logo on my next cover, but I may decide to just leave it simple and plain. No sense in advertising to myself.

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Well I am the guy hiding in the shadows with a couple points... You mentioned about using marine grade vinyl. I picked up a yard of lime green off ebay about $15 shipped or a little cheaper. Made a simple cheap cover that fit the 200DX pretty well. Great to keep the dust off. Took a couple pieces of cardboard an traced the machine and added a couple inches. Worked great. Think I posted a pic of it somewhere on here.

Well as far as the lime green color.... I had a couple transmissions for sale. A guy shows up to pick them up. We are talking a bit and he looks in the corner and says it that an Everlast welder????? I think the bright lime green color does it right there. The welder was completely covered so it was the cover that gave it up.

thnx for stepping out of the shadows for a moment....your post is appreciated.

i too think Color goes a long way.
when others see things they have some knowledge of, it opens the door to conversation.

like U, many of us want to protect our investment when its not used everyday.
hence, a preferably green dust cover at reasonable cost.

as always, pics welcome!

I would like to get a cover for my I Mig 140 E.

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Originally Posted by Brian Ski

Well I am the guy hiding in the shadows with a couple points... You mentioned about using marine grade vinyl. I picked up a yard of lime green off ebay about $15 shipped or a little cheaper. Made a simple cheap cover that fit the 200DX pretty well. Great to keep the dust off. Took a couple pieces of cardboard an traced the machine and added a couple inches. Worked great. Think I posted a pic of it somewhere on here.

Well as far as the lime green color.... I had a couple transmissions for sale. A guy shows up to pick them up. We are talking a bit and he looks in the corner and says it that an Everlast welder????? I think the bright lime green color does it right there. The welder was completely covered so it was the cover that gave it up.

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That's cool. I can't say that I've had anyone recognize my Everlast welder, but I have had a few friends ask what machine I am using to tig weld with, and of course I tell them.

I like the marine grade vinyl for welder covers and I've made a few for myself (along with covers for everything in the shop-drill press, lathe, carts, bead blast cabinet, etc), but as I mentioned before, it's just too much energy to produce covers for others and sell them for the $20 that everyone wants to purchase them for. Especially with all the different case sizes and such with the Everlast lineup.

I thought about a Honda Generator cover. It would've fit the I Mig 140E. With one problem. No slot for the Torch and work clamp wires. I would have to cut and seam it.

If its cheap enough, why not!.....cut a slot in it.
Altho, i wld hv a problem if it were Red.
Many covers i hv saw hv slots in them to allow for the cables etc....

I think my Yamaha/Honda dealer sells it for around $25-$30. The EU2000i. The EU1000i didn't fit. Its Grey. Says Honda in red.

Here is a link to Amazon site:http://www.amazon.com/Honda-Silver-G...=eu2000i+cover