Plasma in my future... near future now!

Thanks to a great chat I had with my boss Friday, during the course of which he offered me a promotion and nice fat raise, I'm moving up my timeline on some projects. Acquiring a plasma cutter was one of the 'sooner than later' items on my list and sooner just happened to run up and slap me in the face.

So, I was originally looking at a supercut 50P, but now thinking a PP50 or PP60. What's the deal with the 60S, it isn't in the list on the main site, looks a bit different than the other PP series.

So, what's the difference between a PP50, 60, 60S? Is each a hundred more than the last? Which torch do I really want?

Blowback vs HF? Not CNCing for a while yet, not till after the move (no room) and will likely pick up a machine for that when I do, so not worried about that aspect, but the 60S appears to be CNC friendly like the 60C but with a hand torch rather than machine torch.

Thoughts, advice? Trying to stay near a grand to my door (well, less, I have some contest discounts to apply)

We only sell 60S and 60C's. No more plain 60s. This is true for the 60,70,80 units.

Is the 60S a 60C with a hand torch instead of the machine torch ?.. If not what's the difference ?

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Originally Posted by Trip59

Thanks to a great chat I had with my boss Friday, during the course of which he offered me a promotion and nice fat raise

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Congratulations! THAT'S a great conversation to have with the boss!

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Originally Posted by zoama585

Is the 60S a 60C with a hand torch instead of the machine torch ?.. If not what's the difference ?

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Yeah, what he asked... the specs on the main site all look the same as when I looked a while back. Is there a new spec sheet?

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Originally Posted by DaveO

Congratulations! THAT'S a great conversation to have with the boss!

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Indeed! Great way to end the week for sure.

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Originally Posted by Trip59

Indeed! Great way to end the week for sure.

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You lucky dog! Did you ask whether each week was going to end that way from now on? ;-)

Where I'm at now, that would put me in charge of the company by the middle of next month. :) I've seen that job, I don't want that job...

Trip,

Glad things are looking up for you. For a bit, if I recall, things were a little rough. Sounds like they are all good now. Congrats...

Indeed Mike, been rough for a couple years, got real rough recently, this is the light at the end of the tunnel and it was great to find out it wasn't a train :) Still looking at a move, but we're going to do it the right way, probably in a summer or two.

Ok, so, I'm looking at plasmas but can't really see how to move forward. 99% of everything will be under 1/2". No CNC for now, pilot arc is a must, cost is a factor (don't want to just blow cash because I have it, ya know?).

So, Supercut 50P, PP50, PP60, how do I decide?

What are the determining factors that would make me want to drop an extra several hundred on a PP over the 50P.

What torches am I looking at being able to use, is that a limiting factor?

I'd like to be able to use things like a pantograph (future project), circle cutter, drag tip, etc. for flexibility, does that factor in?

Advice here folks, y'all saved me some money with the TIG recommendation to suit what I needed (200DX is great, don't miss anything over the larger units and I haven't maxed it yet) and I couldn't be happier with that, I'd like to feel the same after the plasma cutter shows up as well.

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Originally Posted by Trip59

Indeed Mike, been rough for a couple years, got real rough recently, this is the light at the end of the tunnel and it was great to find out it wasn't a train :) Still looking at a move, but we're going to do it the right way, probably in a summer or two.

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Very glad to hear that. In my 50's I've had my ups and downs. And looking to a change soon myself.

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Ok, so, I'm looking at plasmas but can't really see how to move forward. 99% of everything will be under 1/2". No CNC for now, pilot arc is a must, cost is a factor (don't want to just blow cash because I have it, ya know?).

So, Supercut 50P, PP50, PP60, how do I decide?

What are the determining factors that would make me want to drop an extra several hundred on a PP over the 50P.

What torches am I looking at being able to use, is that a limiting factor?

I'd like to be able to use things like a pantograph (future project), circle cutter, drag tip, etc. for flexibility, does that factor in?

Advice here folks, y'all saved me some money with the TIG recommendation to suit what I needed (200DX is great, don't miss anything over the larger units and I haven't maxed it yet) and I couldn't be happier with that, I'd like to feel the same after the plasma cutter shows up as well.

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My vote, PP50. The SuperCUTs are fine if for hobby, if making money off them, I like the better duty cycle/IGBT. I have a PP80 I use now, the extra power is nice, but if I was on a budget, the PP50 would be all I would need. Also, lug a PP80 and PP50 for a day and tell me which one is lighter :D

If your thinking down the road you may get a CNC then go with a PP50 or 60S. I purchased a Super Cut 50 and then decided to embark on a DIY CNC journey; so I purchased a 60C. I think a separate plasma for CNC is the way to go, but when your getting started a CNC capable plasma cutter is the way to go.

I bought the PP50 and it does what I need. I wish I would have bought the PP60 just to get a little more power.... What your doing Now is not always what you will be doing in the future so make sure you have room to grow

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Originally Posted by CGCINC

I bought the PP50 and it does what I need. I wish I would have bought the PP60 just to get a little more power.... What your doing Now is not always what you will be doing in the future so make sure you have room to grow

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My thoughts exactly. It's better to have it and not need it than than to need it and not have it. A larger machine will also run cooler with a better duty cycle. List price for the PP60 is only $100 more than the PP50.

Thanks guys, so I'm on to the PP series, wasn't sure about the supercut but figured worth asking because of the big price difference.

As for CNC, down the road, yes, but I'll most likely buy another machine just for that, I can't imagine I'd like switching back and forth. I've watched Keith Fenner's vids and he has a great setup, but it's still a bit of a process.

Is the 60S $949 like the 60 is listed as?

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Originally Posted by Trip59

Thanks guys, so I'm on to the PP series, wasn't sure about the supercut but figured worth asking because of the big price difference.

As for CNC, down the road, yes, but I'll most likely buy another machine just for that, I can't imagine I'd like switching back and forth. I've watched Keith Fenner's vids and he has a great setup, but it's still a bit of a process.

Is the 60S $949 like the 60 is listed as?

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They are on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...owerPlasma+60S

Trip,

Call Oleg, he will get you a good price. I use the PP80 for day to day and have a PP50 in the wings for CNC. But the PP50 is quite the machine.

But of course :) The new 60S does come with the Trafimet 81, right? Consumables will be ordered online, the local shop believes all things welding are made from gold and plated in platinum...

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Originally Posted by Trip59

But of course :) The new 60S does come with the Trafimet 81, right? Consumables will be ordered online, the local shop believes all things welding are made from gold and plated in platinum...

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Comes with a Trafimet s75 torch according to amazon.

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Originally Posted by Trip59

But of course :) The new 60S does come with the Trafimet 81, right? Consumables will be ordered online, the local shop believes all things welding are made from gold and plated in platinum...

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Close, not a lot are platinum, but lots of halfnium. ;)

As with other things Everlast, probably best not to order anything until you open the box and see what you got. It seems like the factory can surprise everyone sometimes.

The whole point of the 60 "S" is to offer the "S"75 torch.

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Originally Posted by performance

The whole point of the 60 "S" is to offer the "S"75 torch.

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All I really know about them (and why I'm asking :) ) is what I've read here and on the main site. They all have notes about recommending the 81, so I assumed that was the preferred torch. If the point of the S is to offer the 75, does that put it in advantage over the 81 recommended for the others in the specs?

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Originally Posted by CGCINC

I bought the PP50 and it does what I need. I wish I would have bought the PP60 just to get a little more power.... What your doing Now is not always what you will be doing in the future so make sure you have room to grow

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I agree 100%

I started with the PP50, when the PP's came out. It truly did all I wanted, blowback good for CNC. Just wanted a tad more power/speed. I jumped to a PP70 for a bit more power. Over time dropped to a PP60 hoping it to be lighter (was not). Mark and I talking one day, he said, get an 80, since they are in the same weight range. I did.

I liked all the unit, had them for for some time. I now have PP50 (still in the box) waiting on a CNC table one day and I use the PP80 daily.

I would say the budget and CNC needs are the main factors, far as CNC, you will probably want two units anyway.