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Hi, I am interested in buying either a new 200dx welder, the 2013 model with the dual voltage, new style foot pedal and the improved front panel and was wondering if it was available yet. If the 200dx dual voltage isn't available yet were there any improvements made to the 250ex in 2013 and if so what were they and is it available yet? Also are they the planning on making 250ex a dual voltage machine?
thanks,
ed
Good morning, Ed- Duncan posted some photos of machines in production here:
http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...ook-2013-200dx
Your best bet to find out immediate availability would be to call the sales office in SF: 877-755-9353.
Totally a guess on my part: the 250EX is the water-cooled workhorse, and operating at 110v would likely reduce the machine's capabilities and add expense to the extent that another welder in the lineup would do the same work better and cheaper. Are you thinking of portability, or ease of wiring the machine up?
The 200dx is in production now and the dual voltage units are being tested tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrflashlite
The 250ex will not be produced as a dual voltage welder. I am not sure what you mean by new pedal , there is talk of a new mold for the pedal but at this time it is talk and no mold has been produced to date.
thanks,
The 250 EX is a dual phase machine...capable of operating off of 1 or 3 phase 240V.
to Titan winch, I heard that they were changing the foot pedal so that you set your max amps at the panel and then when you used the pedal that that was the max amps you were going to get, that what you had set at the panel was max and as you let off on the pedal it would go to 0 as you pulled out of the weld vs. using the pedal to control from 0 to the max capable of the machine. I think on my friends that no matter what you have set as your max amps on the panel of the machine, when you use the foot pedal it overrides that number. I might be wrong but I know it wasn't like the miller I had or use at work, it is kinda hard to get used to.
thanks,
ed
Ed that was never completely the case with the 200DX. You had an amp control knob that limited maximum amps on the pedal. But true, it would only read the amps when the pedal was pressed. But the knob would give you a numerical value that wasn't amps, but once used a little bit you could get the hang of it. It would represent an approximate setting of the foot pedal and you could translate that value into the maximum amp setting as the knob was turned. (all our units change from a static amp reading to true output once the pedal is pressed) But since about the middle of this year, the panel knob limited the amps for the foot pedal. It isn't a new pedal in fact, it is the same one but without the limiting knob on the pedal.
Are the 2013 models out yet? A periodic update on the forum would really help us pre-order folks.
I can not speak for the USA ,but Jean sent out emails today to all our back order Customers updating them on the arrival for Canadian models they arrive in Toronto around midnight Friday and once cleared will be in our facility and starting testing by Tuesday , Wednesday and they wil ship as they are tested. In fact I have been told I have to work late each day and our part time guy will be working evenings with me just for testing and checking units for most of next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by gth_42
In fact I just added another 50 amp welding outlet at the back so we can now test 3 Welders at a time
Cheers
Is this just the new TIG or does this apply to the MIG line as well?
Thank you for the insight Titan! Hopefully the USA models will be close behind. I may have to take a road trip if you have any leftovers :)
The new Migs are not in this shipment for Canada. I wil most likely be testing new Migs when i am back at the Factory in March ,at least for the Canadian marketQuote:
Originally Posted by ShaneJackson
Cheers
I just finished clearing the Shipment ( it arrived early ) it is now at the Warehouse but seeing as Monday is a Holiday i will be receiving this order before Noon on Tuesday. I don,t like being so rushed but at least i can start testing welders in the afternoon and evening to try to get ahead of the orders . I have Customers coming in on Wednesday for pick ups so i need to make sure these are all in order and sorted out first.
Cheers
Well that is rather disappointing news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan winch
All in due time. Changes delay things, the new 250EX looks if very nice.. Also, Duncan's inspecting means less issues, so well worth it.
On you signature, I would get a IMIG-200. Can not bring myself to sell mine and thinking about getting a second one.
I have been waiting on the new migs.... the date just keeps moving further and further away. If testing is done Mid march it will be mid April for shipping (at best). What ever happened to testing mid December shipping Mid January... I wish I could wait for the new line but I just cant any longer. I have 2 different solar tracker projects that have been damaged by not properly securing the actuator. One is just mild, the other (larger)... may end up being a total loss.
Shane, What do you think the new units will do for you that the ones we have now won't? The units coming in aren't replacing what we have now. They have the same basic components as far as the drive, and solenoids etc. They are digitallly controlled and that's it basically. They may have a few features that appeal to some of our customers, but the current I migs are some of our best product...So, why all the disappointment and frustration? I don't remember us setting a date on the digital i MIGs.
Can't you properly secure the actuator with tig or stick ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaneJackson
When I originally called Oleg to order in Nov, I was told to wait if I could for the "new one." Mid Jan was when I was told I should have the "new one."
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Originally Posted by performance
The big one is 17ft up in the air.... I guess I could give stick welding a shot... never done it so I better do a lot of practicing first.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama585
For what ever it might be worth my opinion and actually that of the person who does all the mig unit testing at the factory,the best mig function model to date is the synergic MTS models in the 200 and 250 amp.
I have to agree with this evaluation as I was testing the units the other week and this is what brought up the question and the reason I asked.
Mind you it is a close call between these and the 205 ( I have the most time on the I-Mig 205 so it is the easiest for me to relate to )
The new model digitals may very well be as good or better but at this point until you start actually evaluating them there is little you can say to the quality of weld they will put out.
Cheers
Shane,
We have had the MTS for a while, but they are getting added features so it is worth the wait. But, I have used the IMIGs since day one, have a 200, 205P and 250P. I would never trade them just to add TIG, but me that is extra work. So for me, I have two TIGs with tanks and 3 MIG with tanks. So it is all what works for you. But the old units are fantastic as well.
ANyone have an idea if the US TIG's are being shipped ? Oleg mentioned two weeks about two weeks ago. Really looking forward to some of my projects:) Thanks - Ryan
I had heard end of this month. After the 22nd plus. But not 100% sure. Waiting on a 2013 250EX myself. But the old 250EX and 210EXT are serving me well so not that excited. But for those that have them on order I am sure they are.
Interesting. I was researching the IMig models a bit, but this comment about the got me looking at the MTS models, which has me a bit confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan winch
- The Everlast site shows the MTS200 and MTS250S, but the photo on the main 1-phase MTS page shows an MTS200S
- The Everlast eBay store has the MTS200S and MTS160 listed
- Amazon has the MTS160, MTS200S, but the new 2013 MTS250S
- There is a link to a manual on the Everlast site (from Dec 2012) for the MTS200/200S/250S, but the manual itself only seems to explain the MTS200 and MTS250S (though the cover page makes mention of the MTS160). There is also a link (from July 2011) to a manual for the MTS160/200S
- I've seen videos (links were posted in another thread) reviewing a MTS210, which I can't find on sale anywhere.
I'm assuming the 'S' suffix refers to synergic, and therefore I had assumed that the MTS200S is an update to the MTS200. But the manual for the MTS200 is newer than the MTS200S manual, which tells me the opposite. And the availability of the MTS200S on eBay and Amazon, but not on the Everlast site, confuses me.
The MTS200S doesn't seem to have a setting for a spool gun, while the MTS200 does. The MTS200S also does not seem to have settings for up/down slope, pre/post flow, or foot pedal as the MTS200 does. MTS200 and MTS250S appear to have the ability to save settings in memory.
So I'm just trying to figure out what is what. Not that a machine with a one year older or newer design is a big deal, I'm just trying to understand the selection. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks!
Here is the face and look of the MTS 200S model. As you can see it is full synergic spool gun capable.
Cheers
P.S I think it may even be on sale on some of our local forums we sponsor .
Nice! So if I order from Amazon or the Everlast eBay store, is this what I would get? Because this isn't what the photos show at this time, and the MTS200S is not even listed on Everlast's own site.
When you say "some of our local forums we sponsor", whom do you mean?
I'm hoping to put together the scratch to purchase a MIG machine in the next few months, and I think my primary candidates are now the IMig 205/205P and the MTS200S - each of which has their own little 'extra' features. And who knows - by the time I'm ready to make my purchase, maybe the new digital MIG will be available to consider as well. Thanks!
Just want to be clear
MTS160 and 200S is no longer available . Amazon and ebay will be updated this week.
MTS200 and 250S are current two models. Our website is already updated
That is for the USA in Canada the synergic 200S model is available .Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg
Thanks Oleg - that clears it up! A bit of a shame for me (being in the US), though - the 200S shown above looks like exactly what I wanted - not quite as big as the 250S, but with all the bells, whistles, features and knobs for me to play with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg
Thank you, those in the know, for information as it comes available. It looks like there are a lot of moving pieces and any information, even from other markets, is beneficial.
It would be awesome if the forum had some kind of current model backorder list with projected availability dates. It may be a handy (call-reducing) resource for those on waiting lists. I understand there are no guarantees, and I'm not asking for even daily updates. Any semi-realistic date would be better than nothing. Welders-in-waiting could see the date as it changes and be able to plan accordingly. If things get pushed back a month then so be it. It is what it is. If folks know the list is updated, say, every other Friday then we'll know where and when to check.
If every 10th viewer of the backorder list would have called, that's "n" fewer calls to what sounds like really busy folks. I've called. It sounds like a madhouse. I feel bad asking the same question as 50 others have earlier in the day.
Personally, I'm not in a big rush. It's a hobby for me. However, I will be both moving to a place with no garage and selling my old (red box) unit. I just need to know when to sell my old unit, and what projects may need to be abandoned before the move. My need for a shipping date isn't that serious, but I'll bet there are others who could benefit from a little heads up for planning purposes as well.
From the outside looking in a simple list updated every week or two could really help. Perhaps a "sticky" (with miggy & tiggy) thread?
Or, does such a list/site already exist and I'm looking like a noob :) ?
For those who wait to test: Thank You! I'd rather wait for an additionally QA'd product any day.
My 2013 250EX is supposedly shipping out today, I hope thats the case. I have a tracking # but it doesn't show as shipped yet.
Sweet! Hope mine ships in the next couple of days!
Thank you! Can's wait to weld with it! I'll be posting lots of photos and shots of my welds! PLUS I started GTAW ( in school) two days ago and my welds are already looking better then I thought I could ever do....can't wait! THANKS EVERLAST!!!!
My 250 EX has shipped. I should have it monday! :)
Truck load. Well I got all my Everlast products this week now getting it set up.
Everlast PowerTig 2013-250EX w/cart (Canada)
Everlast Power I-MIG 205 w/spoolgun w/cart (Canada)
Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
Everlast PowerPlasma 70 w/cart (Canada)
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What is the status on the 2013 power pro 205? I haven't received any status updates on my preorder.
ALL MODELS IN STOCK !!! YA !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by E36M3
most were shipped .. some going out today !
Dang! It sure looks like you got the whole stable filled now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kempy
someone in sales needs to do a better job of communicating with customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg
just sayin'
Any news the 2013 power pro 205? I haven't received any status updates on the one I pre ordered.