2013 Miscellaneous changes for Everlast line

So here are a few of the updates for next year.

NEW 2013 PowerPlasma 60/60/70/80

- Will feature the s-75 torch now, which is a blow back start, which improves comparability for add on CNC customers, but also improves overall reliability.
- There is a new case design which will be used for all the DX/LX/EX units which is very similar to the new 255ext.



NEW 2013 PowerTig 200DX/225LX/250EX

- Line will get a slight "refresh" on all the larger PowerTIGs. The Panels for all the larger PowerTIGs will have a slight redesign. More to be posted later.
- There is a new case design which will be used for all the DX/LX/EX units which is very similar to the new 255ext.




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stay tuned ...

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tease!!!!!

Lol, seriously. What a tease.

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Looks like I am going to wait for the new 2013 PowerTig 250EX for the shop and put down my Hobart 250 after 26 years of rolling around the 400lbs.

When are the 2013 250EXs avalable?

Ok, so I am a little confused as I was told the one I just bought this week is a 2013 model?

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Ok, so I am a little confused as I was told the one I just bought this week is a 2013 model?

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Odyknuck

you did buy 2013 model , call me and i will explain more details

I tryed calling a few time? Left message on your Cell Phone?

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I tryed calling a few time? Left message on your Cell Phone?

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you need to call the office

Did that too and tryed to use the directry and you just don't exist in it lol. I will PM you with my Cell Number.

Ext 201 is sales/Oleg

New 250ex analog


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I really like the regrouping of the knobs. Moving the gas flow to it's own group away from the 4T slope controls is great. Maybe they might someday get a new knob color, as well?

Rambozo, glad you picked up on that...Also if you will notice, the gas control is part of both cycles, so they are separately grouped within the group. For even further clarification, have given a couple of "directions" on the panel to make SURE customers get the setup right when going from foot pedal to torch and vice versa.

I can't see all the labels, but it looks like the new layout really groups the controls in a logical way. I'm guessing the green layout is:

START AMPS | END AMPS
UP SLOPE | DOWN SLOPE
PRE FLOW | POST FLOW

So all the starts are on the left and all the ends on the right. And having the spot time switch and knob grouped together is great. Again maybe it should have a different color knob? It would be nice if the pulse switch didn't have the printing on it because it really doesn't match with the actual positions, but I understand those come preprinted from the manufacturer. In fact except for the spot timer, I think you would be better served with just all plain black switch faces for everything. Just less confusion as more as more people now know the binary 1 and 0 for on and off, as it's used on more and more things. Because on and off really don't apply to most of the switches, anyway.
I get the feeling this new layout will cut your support calls, at least a little. ;)

Rambozo,
Those things come standard, not much we can do about it unless we spend major $$$$$$. The colors are also limited. Most factories if they have a colored knob available will make it in only 4 colors or less. They also have to match the potentiometer shafts as well. We have new knobs scheduled, but they are not in place yet. They will be updated late this year I hope.

I like the new look.. Do you guys have any pictures of the new torches?

I thought the picture that was put up earlier showed the knobs and description better.


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That one is easier to read. Instead of having the instructions to turn down all the slope controls to use the pedal, why doesn't plugging the pedal in, disable those controls? Seems like it's a common issue for support.

Because it uses the same circuit as the 2T. It's not so simple.

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Because it uses the same circuit as the 2T. It's not so simple.

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True, but you do use a pair of contacts in the plug to indicate that a pedal is connected, so you could use that signal to switch out the slope pots either with a solid state circuit, or even something simple like a relay. It's not like a major design revision would be required. Just something to keep in mind for the next revision.

BTW do the start amps and end amps function when a pedal is used? I can see how that might be a little useful even with a pedal, mainly for setting the start current up a little bit over the minimum.

I personally like having the flexibility to adjust things to a state where the machine won't even function, but I know that makes for a machine that is not n00b friendly. Sometimes you get really interesting effects out of very unconventional settings.

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So here are a few of the updates for next year.

NEW 2013 PowerPlasma 60/60/70/80

- Will feature the s-75 torch now, which is a blow back start, which improves comparability for add on CNC customers, but also improves overall reliability.
- There is a new case design which will be used for all the DX/LX/EX units which is very similar to the new 255ext.


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New plasma cutters on the way !

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New plasma cutters on the way !

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Well I was looking at a Power Plasma 70 now I will wait for the New 2013 it looks nice just like all the new 2013 models. Nice work ??????

Funny, I just told Oleg he's like (rip) Steve Jobs.

No joke, I just rotated my PP70 to a PP80 a couple months ago to get current. Now I have to sell the PP80 and get the newer look...

Just like the Iphones iphone 5 is new PP80 now. I like the new plastic covers. Right now only my ITIG 210ETX has one.

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Funny, I just told Oleg he's like (rip) Steve Jobs.

No joke, I just rotated my PP70 to a PP80 a couple months ago to get current. Now I have to sell the PP80 and get the newer look...

Just like the Iphones iphone 5 is new PP80 now. I like the new plastic covers. Right now only my ITIG 210ETX has one.

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To REALLY be the Steve Jobs of the welding world, Oleg will need a little more dramatic flair, and make everything in polished white plastic and/or brushed aluminum with proprietary connectors, and cost MORE than the competition. But the new machines coming out definitely have that 'cool' factor ;)

I really do like the look of the new boxes that have the flip-down "visors". Hoping I can afford one of the new PowerPro 256's in the next year!

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To REALLY be the Steve Jobs of the welding world, Oleg will need a little more dramatic flair, and make everything in polished white plastic and/or brushed aluminum with proprietary connectors, and cost MORE than the competition. But the new machines coming out definitely have that 'cool' factor ;)

I really do like the look of the new boxes that have the flip-down "visors". Hoping I can afford one of the new PowerPro 256's in the next year!

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As one of many that has helped on the cool factor (Mark, Duncan, myself; sure others too). I think our machines are cool for a tool to melt metal together.

My joke was all the cosmetic changes I like. I think Oleg has that down pat. Always looking better. The products work great...

Drama/matic flair, well, it's a welder (not a wife).

White, yea, I want a white welder or anything I can get in my shop in white please.

And we do not cost more than the competition in any way.

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As one of many that has helped on the cool factor (Mark, Duncan, myself; sure others too). I think our machines are cool for a tool to melt metal together.
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And we do not cost more than the competition in any way.

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I totally agree. I was pointing out that you're different from Apple in several ways (e.g. premium price), but similar in that your machines do the job and do it well. It's all good, er, cool. Case in point - I own more Everlast products than I do Apple products, and I intend to purchase more Everlast products, and have no plans to purchase any Apple products.

any changes to the powerultra 205's?

No, other than they now have pulse.

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New plasma cutters on the way !

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The updated case really looks great. Nice modern look to it.

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I personally like having the flexibility to adjust things to a state where the machine won't even function. Sometimes you get really interesting effects out of very unconventional settings.

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Probably the funniest, most ironic thing I've read in months!! Thanks for the laugh. But I'm the same way. I use a CAD/CAM platform every day, and so far, I've been the ONLY machinist that uses this particular shop's system and locks up the computer on a regular basis (like 2-3x daily). I was getting yelled at until the boss saw my "vision" of what I was trying to do, and realized it was the equipment, not the operator.

I'm really liking the new look, too. I might have to sell my 250EX and upgrade. Only thing is that I like it so much I'd have a hard time letting it go. Anyway, first, I need to get a MIG. What's the word on the new Power I-MIG's? Any changes? I'm thinking I need a 250p next.