Well, I started welding this up today. I'll post pictures as it gets closer to being "real".
Comments, questions and suggestions welcome...
Finally!
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Well, I started welding this up today. I'll post pictures as it gets closer to being "real".
Comments, questions and suggestions welcome...
Finally!
Attachment 6353
Doesn't look to have any clearance issues, but I'd make sure you can put a bigger bottle on it as well (like a 155)
Looks goodQuote:
Originally Posted by sportbike
But +1 for being able to mount a bigger bottle.
Same here... make room for a 300cf.
Agree, more tank space and I don't see why the 10 inch wheel has to be set at the end,,,could be positioned in more to avoid wasted space and reduce overall length,,,the top shelf length seems short,,,,cause once you have the cables and hose connected you may want to set the unit further back from the front...hoses and cables occupy space at the front of the machine...as a concept drawing it seems fine..Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama585
The locking castors are a PIA as you will soon find out,,,had some one one of my builds,,,they never stay locked or unlocked at the right time or one is locked and the other is free wheeling,,,,
yes no locking casters they are a pain and bigger tank tigs welders like large tanks . I am going to build a new cart for my new mig welder but the cart will hold 2 tanks 1 tank of mig gas and a 1 argon tank for the aluminum spool gun i am getting later . as for tanks i like the 80 cf since not to tall when welding un a car on a car lift . i have tall tanks but seem i always hit something when rolling welder under car when welding. plus nice having 2 or 3 80 instead in case you run out on a weekend and cant get yours refilled , just like my torches i have 2 acetylene tanks and 3 oxygen tanks to play it safe since i only get my tanks delivered on Thursdays. nothing worse than have a bunch of welding jobs and run out of gas and have to wait for refills . we have a local place to fill tanks but they charge like double over my out of town supplier
Agree with the larger bottle suggestions maybe 125 cf+ and moving the back wheels in for space. The middle shelf could be taller to accommodate a cooler if you ever wanted one in the future. The WC300 dimensions were given to me (I forget by who) as L20"xW10.5"xH14.5". Cable holders would also be nice. I don’t fully understand the pivot because at 30” you should be able to see the display just fine. I thought angling your machine was good on low carts to see the display, so if I am missing something let me know. Good luck with the cart and post pics of the build.
When I built my cart http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...y-Welding-Cart I mounted the 10" tires forward so they would be beneath the weight of my 125cuft tank. Because that raised the cart up another 1/2" due to the axle being welded beneath the cart frame, I had to weld some u-channel standoffs to mount my caster plates on. Casters were previously 5" height. Worked out fine. I made more space between middle and top shelf so it would fit two pieces of equipment. Still have lower shelf space for cables, etc.
I agree that the casters do not have to be locking. Once you have a loaded cart with welder and tank, the cart won't be moving on its own.
ken
More details...Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer
As other folks are saying, I'm probably going to get a larger tank at some point. I was trying to future-proof it as much as possible. The top shelf is 19" wide - same width as the shelf drawer.
I was just trying to keep the weight forward of the rear wheels. Also, the 10" tires were so I can wheel it out in the back yard if I had something to work on that I couldn't get into my small garage.
The locking casters were relatively cheap (tractor supply) and will be bolted not welded to the frame.
The upper shelf will tilt up to offer more versatility to operate the knobs should I be at the bench or next to a vehicle on a roller stool.
Please keep the comments and ideas coming - I want it as tricked-out as possible and I've got the time. Son wants a drink holder on it now! :D
My son and I are both 6'5" tall.:PQuote:
Originally Posted by NRM
Anybody know off-hand what the height and diameter of a 125CF? Diameter is the most important as I will need to adjust the rear foot and cage dimensions and also the capture device. THANKS!
shifting the wheels in 6 inches will not hurt the balance it will improve it,,,,if you plan on moving it around the yard ,,,best to install some handles to make sort of a wheel barrow,,,cause them little castors only roll well on cement,,,they hang up on the slightest thing,,,,my genset has a similar wheel setup to your design,,,moves okay on cement,,but I have handles to make it ride on the big wheels only,,when I'm moving on grass or dirt..Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
I think the 125cf cart I have is right at 7" diameter. From what I researched awhile back most tanks are 7" up thru 125cf, then they get wider. Here's a chart I just found: http://wagnerweldingsupply.com/pdfs/cylsize.pdf
ken
My 125 cf tank measured a 7-3/8" diameter.
Tank sizes: http://www.airgas.com/content/detail...=7000000000234
You did a great job with your drawing diagram but is spending all this time & labor worth building your own cart when Harbor Freight has a real nice one on sale for $49 dollars and if you have a 20% off coupon it would be even cheaper. http://www.harborfreight.com/welding-cart-90305.html
I have one of those...Way too small. My 200DX doesn't really fit on it on its own (I have a small nylon strap around it to keep it from falling off).Quote:
Originally Posted by X83
that would be like my i mig 205 it would not fit on a regular welding cart
I haven't welded anything in about 15 years. What fun would it be to put together a cart from Harbor Freight? Like I said, I've got some spare time coming up this spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by X83
After all, I'm a broadcast engineer - I design and build and repair some rather cool stuff! I work for a "managed networks" and digital signage company.
http://divmedia.net
I'm one of those folks that has actually found their "dream Job". I'll never get rich doing it but I have fun every day. That's me in the control room on the homepage.
Yea... I stopped in and thought I would get one... Nice price... But after looking at it it was about knee high and as sturdy as a cheap tv tray. I think if you leaned on it it would collapse. Not something I wanted to tie a pressurized tank to.Quote:
Originally Posted by X83
my new welding cart Attachment 6371 waiting for the shag carpet to put on the cart
What cad program did you use to draw up the cart? Always looking for free and easier.
As Rod mention the IMIG-205 will not fit, but almost all other non roll-around Everlast units will. The IMIG-205P will fit fine.
Inthefrey's cart:
I would move the wheels forward (middle of the tank deck) and extend the tank deck a little like others mentioned. Larger tank (if TIG you will see soon) and better balance.
Rod cool new cart:
I wouldn't use wood, that stuff will catch on fire not that I would be that close with the torch.. :D Fire proof would not probably heavier than angle or tubing. Though probably cheaper.
I have to admit it works. Also, at my age squatting to set the dials it out too. Needs a shelf.
I used Microsoft Visio to draw it. Been using it for about about 15 years - as long as it has been out and before it was bought by Microsoft.Quote:
Originally Posted by everlastsupport
The I took a picture of my PowerPro 205 at the same angle as viewing the cart from the side and then cropped it with Photoshop CS4.
Respective of the recommendations, I will be moving the wheels forward and extending the tank deck to accomodate a larger tank. The front frame is almost done. I had a chance to work on it last night.
Since I had envisioned using L-channel as my rear axle mount to compensate for the 3/4" or so caster height difference, All I need to do is just extend the tank deck.
Stay Tuned! :D
Good point! I will need to add a tube for filler rods! THANKS!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
This is actually a very nice cart!
You can do all this in MS Paint that comes with windows 7... Attachment 6374Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
Looks like you will have a nice cart for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
I have Visio 2002 to last action pack. But you have Visio Draw huh. I really like the tape tool (tape is a bit large). Sketch-up is too much work (thought not as bad as) STD cad as well and same for autocad. I was the man with Corel many years ago. Will see if I can find Visio draw and try it.
My cart, ugly and modded, if perfect for me as I made if for what I wanted MIG TIG plasma on the same cart. But if I did it over (this cart is old so maybe one day) Bigger tired on back like yours and big on the front. I have 5" rubber casters, I hate them. I want to roll over things when I hit them.
Also, PCV with caps work great for filler holders.
OK Rod, post up once the shag order comes in :D.
If you don't have Windows 7, Paint.Net is a really good and simple "paint" program.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama585
Visio is a good product. However, LibreOffice Draw can do the same job, and it is free. As an advantage, you can use the same software under Windows, Mac, and Linux.Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
Looked over your plans and it doesn't show how wide it is... Was looking over the inverter welders and most are 9" wide. You sure don't want a tall cart that narrow...Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
I am old fashioned use a drafting board Attachment 6375
The front frame will accomodate a 19" rack-mount device or drawer. I may (from your comment) "inset" the rear wheels now to reduce this profile as it is only a tank deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Ski
THANKS!
I have one much bigger than this at my office - I still use it. When the EMP hits, the folks fluent in autocad will be out of luck!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
That must be RonCad Desktop 1.0bc. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
Will check out libre draw. Need a good vector program with dim built in, not sure paint is it, I thought it was graphic. Anyway, not a big windows fan either.
Not a windows fan either. However, my dad once told me, "Son, you do the very best you can with what you've got or, have been given..." I find this sage wisdom for all aspects of my life. The wife says this to me occasionally too. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by everlastsupport
(Dad was a NAVY CW02)
So were was your dad station at . I was in marines but spent most my time on ship since i was a 0849 navel gun fire controller. are head officer was a navel warrant officer i was in the service back in the 70
Well, I was born when my dad was 52. My dad was born in 1908.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
Most of his service was in the South Pacific aboard a sub tender before I was born. http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/19/1941.htm
I did a reservist tour 1984 - had to cut basic at Great Lakes short to come home and wish him "fair winds and following seas" when I was 24. Then went back to finish basic. That was a little tough! I still miss him.
Anyway, Back to the action at hand!
I have finished the main chassis of the cart. The accessory drawer fits perfectly! I worked a 12-HR yesterday at the uplink so, The rest of the pictures will have to wait till tomorrow!
The MONSTER begins to take shape!....
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I taught my sons the same. One didn't listen and the other two take it a little too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
I was in the army. Spent most of my time developing pictures in a dark room. One of my sons is in the army, another was a marine who worked on helicopters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
yey sucks my dad has been gone for over 20 years now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phBPdE6c390i spent a lot of time riding in twin egg beaters lol as we call them the flying coffins if i was not on ship i was at camp Pendleton or coronado island or san Clemente island
So, the whole house now is wandering through the garage, asking questions about the new cart. My 14-year-old daughter asks, "Dad, where's the green tank go?" I said, Well, I'm getting another, larger tank. "You mean the tank that helped build the cart doesn't get the first ride?" "Probably not.", I replied. I went to the store and was gone about 30 minutes. When I got back, I found the scene below waiting for me.
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The welds are going VERY well!
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Lower chassis almost complete..
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Gotta love your kids!
Your daughter has an awsome sense of humor. LMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by inthefrey
Hi Folks,
The DREAM CART build is under way again. I'll have new pictures of the cart progress in about a week.
What have I been doing? Well, I put an engine in son's car, closed my office after my employer decided he didn't want to be in the teleport business anymore(took 2 months), built home office in basement, moved the chicken pen, planted the garden, took down a 75' Norway Spruce in the back yard and began shingling the back roof just before it got real hot.
Now that it's cooling off a bit, I can stand to be in my garage without sweating all over the welder!