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Slightly different look to the 200Dx face along with the Pre-flow . The pedal on the new models now work with the panel setting the max amps and the pedal working to that limit ,
Second picture vis the new Amp control torch that is offered as a option for the 200dx 225lx 250ex and the Power Pro Series
I see one on my horizon...and love the finger control torch.
ken
That torch looks really nice! Does it have finger control for heat?
Was looking at a 200dx myself. Does it use the same pedal??? I thought the control was on the pedal if so are there 2 control for the current???Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan winch
Brian
That is the point of this post, to inform that the knob on the pedal is no longer on these welders and instead, it is controlled the same as the other welders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Ski
Do you have a torch for the 200dx sold last year.
Yes we have a few torches available . the amp range is from 5 to 200 and no preset max amps can be dialed in but it does give the flexability of controling the amps and not having to be dependant on the pedal for this .Quote:
Originally Posted by lemcca
Darn it I should have waited a few weeks to order mine. Oh, well guess once I learn how to use the one I got I will probably upgrade to a 250 EX.
Will the trigger be click on and off, or hold for power(constant depression)? Will the wheel be limited travel or continuous, like a mouse wheel? S/F....Ken M
Is there any reasonable way to upgrade an older 200DX (about 1.5 years old i think) to the new pedal/panel amperage operation?
Chris
The Tig torch Rotary Dial is limited to its rotation from low to high.
Just set the panel Switch to 4T mode and depress trigger one time and then dial temp up on torch as the amps are required or lower as needed. Keeping in mind of course that you have no set limiton the old 200DX
I have had some enquiry,s as to the feasability of retrofitting the new boards to the old models
For the new model 200DX the setting is completely different to the old . The new model also has pre flow added and to adapt the older version would mean having to not only change out the complete top board but it would need to have a Daughter board added for preflow.
I will discuss this with Engineering to see if it is a viable option to offer some type of kit at a somewhat reasonable price point but i am not overly confident that it will be done in a cost effective manner.
Let us know what you find out. The lack of a panel adjustment for voltage was one of my only real gripes with the 200DX. I could always sell it and buy one of the 225 or 250 units, but the money I loose selling it might be better off upgrading it since I really don't need the extra power.
Thanks,
Chris
It will likely be something that will be more hands on ( when i have time at the factory level working with my little helper ) and seeing what the simplest solution may be . although to be honest i often use the 200DX and i do not really see the issues or drawbacks that a lot of people seem to feel are a hinderance. We certainly get a fair share of posts discussing the foot pedal operation so we decided that it was only prudent to bring it in line with our other models and of course with doing this we thought we might as well just add the preflow while we where at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Injected65
Cheers
For me it was just how I learned to weld. I can look at the type,size, thickness of metal I want to weld and know exactly how many amps I want to weld with. I have gotten used to dialing in the amperage I want and going to town. I just haven't gotten a feel yet for the foot pedal knob position to amperage correlation. I can work around it, don't get me wrong, but its not something I am comfortable with (yet?).
Chris
Will there be any price change on the 200DX with the newer pre-flow and foot pedal max amps adjustable at the panel?
Are these units available in the U.S. at this time?
Thanks.
Good to see the progress with this one and the 250-210ext's! I'll probably never be much of a tig weldor, but now I can call mine 'the classic' 200dx!
I read where somebody said they have always just set tigs at full blast and used the pedal, is that common?
Some welders only have 'full blast". Certainly could work, as long as you aren't tying to weld with very low amperage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake98
Also note the addition of arc force control on this unit, and the revised pulse settings so it works better with a foot pedal now. Those are two big improvements.
We will be trying our best to maintain the current pricing and in fact we We may be having a sale on these units for the first 2 weeks of March here in CanadaQuote:
Originally Posted by sprocket
We will likely be offering a package deal on accesories along with a small discount on the new 200DX .
Availability is somewhere in the region of 6 to 8 weeks for the USA but it is best to check with them on this.
Cheers
Sounds interesting... Of all the ones I was looking at the 200DX looked like it fit the bill the best. Looks like I may have to wait a while. But I am in no hurry... I have been looking for quite a few years. Although always anxious to get a new toy!!! Nice to see that it will be an upgraded model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan winch
Oooooo...Im excited :D
thanks for the info, TW.
Will the torch and pedal package work with the PU205P?
:)
The PowerUltra 205 does not have 4T mode so it is not able to utilize the torch amp control. In addition the PowerUltra does not have the ability to limit the max amps on the panel when using the foot pedal. The foot pedal on this welder is from 0 to 200 ampsQuote:
Originally Posted by kenwhite
Cheers
Almost sold out on the new 200DX models . I probably will have none avaialable after this upcoming weekend and my next shipment is around 2 months away. dropped the ball on this one and did not order enought to get me through between orders.
cheers
Well that's no good. I was hoping to order one next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan winch
Perhaps a discount for the wait :)
(it was worth a shot)
I think that is for Canada. The US hasn't got them in yet. Somewhere in the older posts it said the new models won't be in the US for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by ncsugrad2006
Gotcha--well crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Ski
First off, Duncan (and Jean) and his crew can ship one to you (everlastwelders.ca).Quote:
Originally Posted by ncsugrad2006
I just bought some blacked-out headlights from up that way (Canada), they still ship to the US.
I am sure we'll stock them, PM Oleg about it or email sales@everlastwelders.com.
The new PA160STH was designed by the everlastwelders.ca group. We will have them in stock next week. I myself have one on order :). It all takes time. But the price and product are right.
Emailed him on Friday--I'm sure we'll talk tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by everlastsupport
So we shall see what the status is on them.
I am sure they are coming to the US as well. I recall Oleg talking about them a couple months ago. Also note we have a larger inventory to run through here in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by ncsugrad2006
Yeah the inventory may be the issue if there's a lot of it. That may create the situation where older ones can be had for a little less money but no telling whether he's willing to give a deal on the new one at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by everlastsupport
If not, I'll probably just wait until the new ones are readily available unless it's going to be 6 months or something.
is this new torch water cooled.and does everlast make a finger controlled torch that works just like a foot pedal does?
I can tell you Oleg will deal if we have a lot of stock on a model, he lives to sell. hahahaha. So it's an opportunity for a good price on a DX. We have sold tons for them and they work fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ncsugrad2006
Far as the finger control, it works in place of the foot pedal. As far as I know, everlastwelders.ca has them and we do not. If we do, I will get on on the way to try out myself. I never use a foot pedal (something about doing TIG and upside down, damn pedal never seems to work), but that would be something I would try out.
haha--good to hear. I have so little experience with TIG, either would really work fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by everlastsupport
I'd still prefer the newer one, all else being equal. But I guess so would everyone else.
The way the old pedal used to work was the only real grumble I've read about the machine