Video demonstrations

Congratulations on the making of a great site. I would like to suggest having video demonstrations on how to setup and weld with your welders. Please show what the knobs do and how they effect your weld. Both the online and print manuals are a little lacking. I'm sure there are a lot of people looking to buy that may be intimidated or unsure with all the settings. I’m a visual learner so a picture is worth a thousand words. I still love my welder and am having great fun with it. I’ve done some small projects and am very satisfied with it. Also I enjoy your “Welding articles from Professionals (knowledge database) section“. Keep them coming.

Jericho,

Its already in the works. We have some updates to our product line soon to be delivered and want to include them in it. So please bare with us for a month or so. We'll be opening up a revamped, cooler website soon. We're working the bugs out of it and trying to make it user friendly. We are trying to make a seamless transition, so that all will go smoothly.

The intention is to have a weekly or monthly series of videos ranging from simple operation to advanced welding techniques. There is a limitless list of subject matter that can be mined. There won't be a lot of thrills for now, but good meaty how-to sessions.
But since you bring it up, I am going to open it up to public debate. What would you like to see up first?

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Jericho,

Its already in the works. We have some updates to our product line soon to be delivered and want to include them in it. So please bare with us for a month or so. We'll be opening up a revamped, cooler website soon. We're working the bugs out of it and trying to make it user friendly. We are trying to make a seamless transition, so that all will go smoothly.

The intention is to have a weekly or monthly series of videos ranging from simple operation to advanced welding techniques. There is a limitless list of subject matter that can be mined. There won't be a lot of thrills for now, but good meaty how-to sessions.
But since you bring it up, I am going to open it up to public debate. What would you like to see up first?

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I'm looking forward to it. Maybe a general explaination of the knobs and how they effect the weld. What knob(s) are used for each of the weld / cutting modes. PS I've gotten a lot of positive comments when I show people my welder. Not all are welders but think the price is exceptional for the quality and features this machine has. And might I say a little GREEN with envy, pun intended. My father in law said it was a real nice one and especially liked the color too! He's a HARD person to impress or please. So keep up the good work

I video of that might be coming, did you look at the online manual. I know we covered the knobs in the onlline manuals. That should help for now.

I looked at the online manual but it is kind of vague. I can weld OK but feel like I'm not taking full advantage of all the features my machine has to offer.
I'm sure there are a lot of new and inexperienced welders who are owners of your products. Plus if someone is looking to purchase one of your units and they feel intimidated they may opt for another unit where they feel more comfortable. Especially if they feel they will not have any easily accessible welding knowledge support.
I would like to see someone demonstrate the relationship of the knobs and how they affect the weld process. I know in another post on this site there was a discussion about letting people figure out what the knobs do for themselves because they would be better welders for it. I disagree because I would like a solid foundation first then I could build upon that knowledge.
I don't have time to reinvent welding. I just would like to see someone who is an experienced welder show ie the proper way to pulse on steel and aluminum, proper material prep, what knobs are used and not used for a specific process Ac vs DC etc, etc.
You have exceptional products and it would be a shame if you don't help and educate your customers. They can be your best advertisement. I for one can't say enough about my welder.

I would like to see a video also.

I ordered some tig supplies from HTP this past week, and I had a 'what the heck' moment and ordered their video as well. It did an OK, but not great job going over their Invertig 201 and all of the controls on it. I'll admit my eyes started glazing over when he was pressing a button for 5 seconds until this blinked and then you could change this parameter, push the button again to go back to this and then hold your arm over your head and make choo-choo train noises... Lots of button pressing, turn a knob, press another button, go back... going on. As I've discussed with Oleg, I'm a knob kind of guy, that's one of the appeals of the 250EX to me. Reach over, grab knob, turn, change parameter. No wandering through menus to find what you want.

Anyhow, the HTP video focused on the impact of AC frequency on tig welding pretty well, but it didn't demo some of the other parameters (can't remember them all right now, but there were some that they just brushed over and didn't really show "this is what happens when you change it"). It was a little over an hour long, but at least 10 minutes of it was just filler logo/music type stuff, it seemed.

Any word on when the 250EX will be back in stock? This week I got almost 30 lbs of various filler, several different sizes of lanthanated tungstens, a trip to the LWS for gas is planned soon (my mig is almost out of 75/25)... And I have no tig welder. Woe is me. And fortunately for you guys, no Dynasty 300DX has fallen from the sky in to my lap either.

I am not sure what the ETA is on the next order. Oleg will have to give an update on that. I just filled my argon $38, last trip was $32.

Spent most of the day with a 250LX trying to use it all up.

I am also waiting for my 250EX. I have some AL projects ready to go. It's killing me, but I'm sure I will survive. I’m working on a cart using a Craftsman side cabinet. I need to put the tank holder and wheels on it then I’ll post some pictures. Mean while I still have the 25 year old BetaMig.
Wayne

This is a good time to mention that there is a lot of "free" information out there on what the basic controls do...A video can show you how to turn the knob and some basic demonstration of technique, but no matter how good, someone will find fault for "lacking" the particular piece of information that they wanted to know...same as the manual.

What a lot of guys are expecting, I fear is a years worth of theory, condensed down into a 1,2,3 do this, do that scenario. Welding just isn't that way guys. It takes years of practice, skill, training and retraining to get good and stay good. Welding is a skill...Skills are learned by doing, skills are kept sharp by doing. No video can adequately teach skill. A lot of variables enter into "recommendations" that some mfgr's offer and in fact, are sometimes not even in the ballpark. For expample, I have talked to "welders in training" who were having trouble with running a bead. They come to me because they know I can weld. They ask me what they are doing wrong. I ask them their settings. They give me boiler plate,standard issue settings. I can tell many are welding too cold, and a few too hot for their talent and skills. They are usually rather frustrated when I explain that the "heat" isn't correct. They almost invariably reply: That's what the book says, or that's what the machine says, or that's where the instructor told me to weld. I'll go into a booth with them and "max" out the machine for the electrode and lay a perfect bead, then I'll go and lay a bead at the minimum range for the electrode and lay another perfect bead. But for a new guy who hasn't developed the skill to weld or doesn't understand what's going on in the machine he is welding with, its frustrating to have a "preset" notion of if I can't weld at that recommendation, then something is wrong with my welding, when all he needs to do is experiment with a more comfortable amperage that gets the job done. In the field, sure there are regulations specifying amperage range and preheat and post heat requirements...but not when one is learning. But the greatest handicap in welding can be the unquestioning reliance upon the " book" settings.

The "punch" button machines are no more difficult to understand or run than your typical microwave...the problem is that most people don't read the owners manual to find out what to punch to keep the popcorn from burning...same is true with our welders. The manuals are designed to give a "heads up" discussion and not a welding primer. Typical welding books are in excess of 500 pages, that just begin to scratch the surface. While yes, a video will give some more clarity, it won't answer every question or every situation or problem encountered. It will likely cover basic technique and functions of the machines in a visual/ audio form. So, this is where YOU come in...You must practice, practice, practice, if you aren't familiar with the units or its capabilities...In so doing, experimentation is necessary.

If you don't like to experiment, or read, I doubt a welding video will be much of a help either. Welding is not an exact science....though some would disagree, it is a descendant of the great ART of blacksmithing,a trade that now has many "videos" about how-to.. But because one watches a video about it doesn't qualify one as a blacksmith, nor does one gain intimate knowlege of the art. The only way is to begin to experiment, and find out what works for you.

Most of our welders are quite advanced in features. I expect that we will have a dumbed" down AC/DC machine in the near future, but even then, proficiency will not be infused by a welding video...

Mark,
I agree with everything you just said about welding, however I think demonstration videos would be a great help. For example....I live in the boonies, at least an hour from any welding school that I know of. I have never even seen tig welding done. A video covering the basics with a machine with similiar controls to one that I own would be of great benefit to me to observe. I know that it is then up to me to practice and learn. At this point I havn't a clue how to begin.

Pretty much ditto, I'm a serious hobbyist, I'll get it figured out, by myself in the dark if I have to... but I always like to watch videos. I may to check out what Smartflix has to offer on tig welding. I've tried to take courses at the local college, but the classes haven't "made", too few people enrolled. Nobody I know has a tig machine, or knows how to tig.

I've pretty much learned the same way with auto body work (painting etc), and machine shop work (I bought a lathe and a mill to learn how to do those also). I don't consider myself a master of anything, but I can certainly knock stuff around now. The tig is next on my list. :) I need to tig some stainless and aluminum here on a project I'm working on.

You have a point that is very valid...The videos will give a frame of reference for you to get a toehold...but what I have heard, or sensed rather is that people are looking to become a welder without the work involved...

Here is some information to consider...

Many states through their adult continuing education program offer "free" or inexpensive mini classes, seminars, lectures, or training on a non collegiate level through local extension campuses, and high schools. Many times it is offered through the local FFA chapter, highschool or extension offices. No college campus is necessary...just access to a welder which is found in nearly all high schools with any type of VoEd program. Also, if no courses are offered, many Ag teachers, Young Farmer Teachers, High School Welding instructors will be glad to offer use and stick time on an open unit with a little "por gratis" tips and instruction...one on one.... Even many are willing to come "tutor" a willing student if asked right.

As a side note, an hour drive is a relatively short one to get a little formal instruction. I know gas is high, but if a good welding school is within a little over an hours drive, then its worth the drive for a few weeks to get some introductory courses...particularly where I live where the Hope Grant pays for any one willing to go back to school to train or go to college that is a state resident and where there are programs that pays "gas money" expenses to make the daily drive for workers that are "displaced" or in other wise need of retraining.

I know this isn't available in all states...but it is worth calling and asking about funds available to get some training... :)

Weldingtipsandtricks.com has links to a bunch of great videos on TIG and other types of welding. The guy who runs the site is very opinionated but he seems to know what he is talking about.

One video which you should check out is http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/...nd-beatin.html

Not exactly TIG but entertaining.

It would be nice to see some one TIG welding with the same machine you have talking about the settings.

Mark you are right your machines are very advanced please don't dumb them down! That's part of the reason I bought one. I am still confident that I made the right choice in buying the machine that I did. Just a little video guidance would be great. Like roadymi and cabletech I am self taught we’re looking for some insight not an encyclopedia. I think noobies and seekers would feel confident in buying a great machine if they thought they could use it. Don't sell your products short they are too good for that. It will also help build up this forum in to a great community! A must go to place for your customers and others who will become your customers.

We do have models with less controls. Not everyone needs them all. These are great intro welders and with a lower cost. And a pro can even impress you with them. So we will always sell them.

The videos are something for the future as there are many types of welding, metals, thickness, welds, etc. Not to mention all of our models of welder.

We are currently tied up on other items directly related to Everlast Welder Products. Getting a complete package (gloves, electrodes, helmet), manuals better and better, etc. The helmets are great and about down. Hats off to Mark on that one.

For now, I would google for welding videos. I know there was an Expert village, welding guru, welding tips and tricks, etc. Also, the local community college will have cheap classes that are great (better than a video). I have no idea how they make money with the electricity and consumables used in them. Also, you have an instructor watching you and give you tips.

People need the basics first. It takes a lot of time and practice, and there are different setting for different people. It is really a lot of time using it.

Mark,
Unfortunately the local schools have all closed down their Vo-ed courses. Even in this very rural community, FFA is a thing of the past. It's sad, I farmed for 25 years.

It's not about the gas or even the money. It's about trying to squeeze together 4-5 hours in a given day to drive to class....partake in the class....drive home. Fortunately I am one of the few left in this country among the employed and I don't have that kind of time.

If developing your own videos is not feasible, perhaps a page here on the forum listing links to videos available on the net. I know I can't learn to tig by reading a book. I learned to weld watching the Millwrights build our grain storage facility when I was a teenager. I then got my dad to buy me a welder and I welded on every scrap I could get my hands on. I have no certificates but I am very confident in my welding abilities. I designed and built several machines that we used on our 5000 acre crop farm.

I am not asking anybody to hold my hand......just point me in the right direction. Thank you for the opportunity to join this forum, there is a lot of potential for this site I believe.

The videos are as of right now forth coming, but it takes days, and weeks to publish. They will slowly come around, but I think there will be benefit for all.

Unfortunately, it does take time...

Until then For good nonspecific welding videos... Tig, Mig, etc...
http://www.ehow.com/video_4426028_what-tig-welding.html

Seems like people want welding videos.

Expert Village is great, I think they are eHow.com now. I know they are all about learning videos. They were way back.

A good read is weldguru.com. They teach the basics and detail. Google should be your best friend as well. There was a weldingtipsandtricks site as well out there.

We're not setup for making movies or to teach welding class, though that all sounds like fun, not at the price we sell our products for anyway.

So the question I have would be what type of welding and at what level? How to set the knobs and what they do? Or here is "my" panel settings (TIG? MIG? Stick?) for 1/4" steel and a video welding the 1/4"? Maybe this would promote a video on the one with the most requests.

We are always willing to help, but we sell welding equipment. Videos will come in time, but we are not movie producers so it will take time.

Anyone can post what they want to do in the forums here and we can get you close. Again, what one uses may not work for the next. There's a lot of time and practice involved.

So all that said and assuming we can make a video soon (it's really hard to push that REC button with the gloves on), which would be your pick?

What I would like doesn't even require the welder turned on.
Just a quick presentation of the basics to get me started. in no particular order. And I expect these would be rough guidelines not gospel.

I am interested for tig but I assume something similiar would be beneficial for other machine uses.

1. Gas flow rate.....starting points, what determines adjustments? amps, metal thickness, or something else.

2. Ballpark amperage settings for 16 gauge, 10 ga and 1/4". Most can read between the lines to adjust from there.

3. How to determine filler material and gauge.

4. Since it is hard to video actual welding puddle due to flash, a brief explanation on forming and maintaining a good puddle.

5. tips and or necessary adjustments for out of position tigging.

Please don't misunderstand this next statement because in the hour or so of use I have on my new Powerultra 205 I am very impressed with it's functionality and operation. Your price points are such that the average hobbyist can get into welding, plasma, tigging, migging for much cheaper than with the "BIG NAME" brands. You asked what we wanted to see on the forum. I think that several of the regulars here have responded with similiar requests. We realize your business is to sell welders not teach welding. We (the consumers) feel that you have a great opportunity to impress prospective customers and provide an excellent service to new customers by demonstating basic operations of your machines. We don't need professional productions, youtube links would be great. My manual was sorely lacking in basic machine operation.

I think we're just going to bombard you guys with some ideas, we'll see what you guys might want to do, ha ha.

Here's something I was looking at today. Welding thin stainless with the pulser.

Admittedly, my focus has been the 250EX, since that's the unit I'm looking to purchase. It's got a pulser system on it that is very similar to the Dynasty 200DX. I was reading this article today:

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...-Gauge-Alloys/

(scroll down to the bottom half)

And it does a good job explaining the pulser function. I'd love to see a video of the pulser in action though. Balanced, more peak, more base, etc. Looks like a very cool feature for thin metals.

Roadmyi,

I will be glad to answer and go through your questions so you can see how the difficult it is with giving specifics about welding settings. We are here to answer your questions...That is not a problem at all...all you need to do is ask specifically as best you can and I or Mike will detail the answers as best as possible...

So here goes.
1) Gas Flow Rate. Gas flow rate is entirely dependant upon metal type, amperage range, indoors or outdoors, weld position, weave technique(or the lack thereof) and operator skill , nozzle size and stick out. A good starting point is somewhere between 15 and 40 cfh(cubic feet per hour...there are metric converters on the web if you are using a lpm or lph gauge) depending upon these conditions. To determine exact setting necessary, set all other parameters on the machine, and then begin welding somewhere in that range. Gradually reduce the gas until you notice slight oxidation and minor pinholing of the weld. Gradually increase the gas flow until the discoloration of the weld dissapears,(dull gray steel begins to get shiny and the black sootiness is gone for the aluminum). When it dissappears, add 3-5 cfh to this to give insurance against drafts, fans or any unforseen condition that may cause the shielding gas to blow off the weld. If it is in out of position welding, remember the flow rate must be increased because Argon is heavier than air and sinks rapidly. In this case, a Helium/Argon Mix may be used and an additional cfh is needed if using HeAr for down hand welding if this gas is to be used exclusively without pure argon.
Personally, I get great results with 15-20 cfh in an enclosed shop on steel and with a number 6 welding cup and find that 25-35 cfh is necessary outside, sometimes 40 if there is a breeze. A larger cup will necessitate a larger gas flow. For the metric flow meters, the range should be about 5-20 lpm.

2) Ball Park amperage... Again, ballpark amperage depends upon metal type, position, weave technique and operator skill and electrode size and type and polarity. Amp The best welding charts center the amperage around the electrode size , composition, nozzle diameter, gas flow and not the metal thickness and are pages long. However, a ball park figure for a 1/16 thoriated tungsten with 15-20 cfh flow with argon in a down hand position with a pointed tip with DCEN is somewhere between 50-100 amps with a 3/8 inch nozzle size(internal) with a ER70S-3 1/16-3/32 filler rod. A 3/32 electrode with DCEN, sharpened to a point, with argon and 15-20 cfh with a 3/8 nozzle and a ER 70s-3 with argon is approximately 70-150 amps with 1/16-3/32 filler metal. A 1/8 inch electrode of same composition, pointed,with DCEN is good for 90-250 amps with 20-25 cfh with a 1/2 inch nozzle and 3/32-1/8 ER70S-3 filler rod with argon.

Now, with that said, if you change any one variable, the recommendation may change, particularly with Aluminum or Stainless.

There are "welding calculators" on the web, that will spoon feed the info to you, but they are notoriously inaccurate and can be off up to 30-40 percent because they do not take into account the limitless number of variables involved. I personally have to experiment briefly every time I weld to make sure that the settings are performing correctly before I begin welding...Also, keep in mind every machine and every brand welds with a different "sweet spot"...

3. Filler material selection has a endless number of variables involved including fitup, spec for the material being welded, desired finish, root gap, presence of back purging, joint prep, position , mill scale, oxidation and overall operator skill. If you can give me a specific question about your conditions and include as much information about the above conditions, I can help on a case by case issue...

4. The "flash" occurs sometime before puddle development. The operator's manual actually gives a good detail on how to start a weld...Slowly circle the torch once the arc is initiated, steadily but methodically, sweeping the electrode from edge to edge until the puddle "wets" in without EVER touching the base metal. Wetting in is a little difficult to explain until you see it. When you see it, its an AHA! moment and you will recognize it. Basically it is where you can drop a bead of filler metal onto the base material and it flows into the metal instead of standing on top of the metal. It flows like thick water and completely blends into the molten metal which is smoothly joined to the sides of the parent material. If a puddle won't "wet" in, increase amperage, change electrodes sizes (go down), or slow down your sweeping motion. Once the puddle begins to form a "kehole" like a skeleton key, where the metal begins to "open" up in the center slightly ahead of the weld pool and it has a nice little round hole ahead of the weld. Then you may slowly progress the weld, keeping the puddle molten and the torch constantly "mending" or "stitching" the sides of the joint to maintain an appropriate puddle and weave. Sometimes, depending upon the joint design, metal, filler and gap, no weaving will be required, unless you are operating at too low of an amperage.

5. Tips for welding out of position... Get comfortable, brace off, and wear your leathers. Use the force of the arc to hold the molten metal "plastered" in place, and maintain a short arc as possible, looking always for the keyhole and promptly adding filler before the keyhole gets too large. Adding the filler flat in the groove may be done to keep it from being a moving variable that is difficult to control... Weld up hill...For overhead, weld similar to flat, but paying attention to droops and quickly moving when one starts to form. Horizontal can be tricky as it requires more consentration and attention to keep the metal from "sagging" from gravity. Keep a tight arc, add the filler while the torch is pointed about 15 degrees upward.


I know this isn't exhaustive, and may not even be helpful, for I have tons more of material to discuss. But maybe you can see that welding is not going to be an overnight skill...But if you do have further questions, just ask...but be specific as possible so that the best answer can be given.

I forsee the next question being: But some other guys do it...They give great little charts, and calculators etc. Why do they do it then? This has arisen from the demand such as this...to have "something" that beginners can easily digest to broaden their market base.

But it has led to a lot of misinformation and frustration on the part of new welders...and you know that misinformation spreads faster than gossip about the organist's drinking problem at church. The misinformation comes from not understanding that these recomendations are made under ideal conditions with pro welders at the torch. The new guys take this at the gospel truth and tell their buddies how to do it...and swear by it because the chart on his welder said so. What isn't ever realized is that most likely the welding conditions hardly ever call for that exact setting. These guys never really get to venture off the page because they believe that there is only 1 setting that will make the weld and they never get their skills developed by having to compenesate with technique and talent to make a weld under poor conditions or with a poorly selected adjustment on the machine. For instance: A welder is trying to make a weld joining 1/8 inch metal to 1/4 inch metal...what amperage does he use, does he walk a 100 feet back to the machine to reset the machine for a 4 inch weld when he has been welding almost exclusively 1/4" plate and has the machine where he likes it? Or does he know how to compensate with his technique and skill to properly fuse both metals? A by the book solution would be to make the amperage change to the 1/8 amperage level. A practical solution would be to concentrate the heat onto the 1/4 plate and gently "wash" the weld into the 1/8 sheet.

I guess, I have said all of that to say this...I am glad to answer any and all questions... and likely one day we will give a one size fits all chart or calculator, but the problem is that it really does the new welder no long term favors. Sure there are minimum and maximum amperages for metal, electrodes, filler rods etc, but the combination is virtually endless unless you use a fixed logarythm that can't compensate for other variables. So please bare with us as we work on providing the information you seek.

Very well done Mark and a great help. You should copy this to the Knowledge section.

Mark,
That is precisely what I wanted. Benchmarks to begin with. I am pretty sure that it will take much trial and many errors before I feel comfortable using the tig for anything life dependent. At least you have given me a jumping off point.

Thanks for the time you put into your response.

This is very good information for someone starting out.

The ranges are perfect, the details on the pool, wetting and key are perfect so you know what to look for as you learn. You will see them if you are in those ranges.

If you read the first and last paragraph, I think Mark wanted that posted here to make a starting point for people asking for information.

We can not make a video or chart that will match each person, unit and environment. But this is good for the people that are doing TIG. We simply want you to ask on the forum and we can advise.

You need to practice (experiment). That is the only way you will learn to weld.

Mark will probably tweak it up and re-post in that area, though it is very clear and it can be copied as it is.

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This is a good time to mention that there is a lot of "free" information out there on what the basic controls do...A video can show you how to turn the knob and some basic demonstration of technique, but no matter how good, someone will find fault for "lacking" the particular piece of information that they wanted to know...same as the manual.

What a lot of guys are expecting, I fear is a years worth of theory, condensed down into a 1,2,3 do this, do that scenario. Welding just isn't that way guys. It takes years of practice, skill, training and retraining to get good and stay good. Welding is a skill...Skills are learned by doing, skills are kept sharp by doing. No video can adequately teach skill. A lot of variables enter into "recommendations" that some mfgr's offer and in fact, are sometimes not even in the ballpark. For expample, I have talked to "welders in training" who were having trouble with running a bead. They come to me because they know I can weld. They ask me what they are doing wrong. I ask them their settings. They give me boiler plate,standard issue settings. I can tell many are welding too cold, and a few too hot for their talent and skills. They are usually rather frustrated when I explain that the "heat" isn't correct. They almost invariably reply: That's what the book says, or that's what the machine says, or that's where the instructor told me to weld. I'll go into a booth with them and "max" out the machine for the electrode and lay a perfect bead, then I'll go and lay a bead at the minimum range for the electrode and lay another perfect bead. But for a new guy who hasn't developed the skill to weld or doesn't understand what's going on in the machine he is welding with, its frustrating to have a "preset" notion of if I can't weld at that recommendation, then something is wrong with my welding, when all he needs to do is experiment with a more comfortable amperage that gets the job done. In the field, sure there are regulations specifying amperage range and preheat and post heat requirements...but not when one is learning. But the greatest handicap in welding can be the unquestioning reliance upon the " book" settings.

The "punch" button machines are no more difficult to understand or run than your typical microwave...the problem is that most people don't read the owners manual to find out what to punch to keep the popcorn from burning...same is true with our welders. The manuals are designed to give a "heads up" discussion and not a welding primer. Typical welding books are in excess of 500 pages, that just begin to scratch the surface. While yes, a video will give some more clarity, it won't answer every question or every situation or problem encountered. It will likely cover basic technique and functions of the machines in a visual/ audio form. So, this is where YOU come in...You must practice, practice, practice, if you aren't familiar with the units or its capabilities...In so doing, experimentation is necessary.

If you don't like to experiment, or read, I doubt a welding video will be much of a help either. Welding is not an exact science....though some would disagree, it is a descendant of the great ART of blacksmithing,a trade that now has many "videos" about how-to.. But because one watches a video about it doesn't qualify one as a blacksmith, nor does one gain intimate knowlege of the art. The only way is to begin to experiment, and find out what works for you.

Most of our welders are quite advanced in features. I expect that we will have a dumbed" down AC/DC machine in the near future, but even then, proficiency will not be infused by a welding video...

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(dumbed down) thats funny sht right there

I was just on an automotive forum ( www.dsmtuners.com ) and someone posted a link to a welding info site. I checked it out and a lot of TIG videos and tech tips! I think it's worth taking a peek at. http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/index.html

That's a great site, lots of good info.
Wayne

Mike, is there a way for me to post, on this forum, my videos of my Cut50?

The 50 is in credible! Works very well, it's all I expected!

Also, why does the manual say not to cut barrels? I'm guessing flammability and toxic gases from chemicals and paint. If this is true, I can cut clean dry barrels?

I LOVE PLASMA

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Mike, is there a way for me to post, on this forum, my videos of my Cut50?

The 50 is in credible! Works very well, it's all I expected!

Also, why does the manual say not to cut barrels? I'm guessing flammability and toxic gases from chemicals and paint. If this is true, I can cut clean dry barrels?

I LOVE PLASMA

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You would need to put your video on youtube and post a link to it. There is a limit on the attachments sizes.

On the barrel. What was in the barrel would be the first question I would address. If oils, you can steam clean it or rinse the barrel with dish soap and water. There is also a risk of explosion on sealed or almost sealed vessels. So be very careful if "you" choose to attempt it. I recommend not.

If you are in doubt about it, pass on it. Some people also fill the barrel with water (cheap solution compared to using an inert gas). Maybe water and a air grinder/ is a better choice.

Do some googling and see if there is better safe advice.

I LOVE PLASMA,

Forgot to say, glad you like the unit. And thanks for the comments.

Post up the video and picture.

Also, make sure you read the safety part of the manual :D

The biggest risk with barrel cutting is that many residues bond to the metal and cannot be "washed" out...Certain cleaners, and solvents are capable of producing a deadly "puff" of gas that can kill quickly and painfully...If you do cut a drum or barrel, make sure you investigate the history of the barrel thouroughly and don't risk it if you cannot.

Another common item of years past is pesticide. Many older drums held pesticide that would cling to the metal no matter the amount of washing.


Be very careful if you decide to risk cutting a barrel. I can't recommend that you cut one, but if you do....

One of the ways that I have found to be safe while cutting barrels, gas tanks, or other questionable items is this: Fill it full of water to remove any flammable vapors, then cut it while full with a sawsall and a metal cutting blade. This creates less sparks (virtually none with a good blade) and if done right will only take a few minutes. The problem with a cutoff wheel in my opinion is all the sparks if any flammable vapors are still present it's a big source of ignition.

I've used this method many times to get rid of old gas tanks, the local metal recyclers won't take them unless you cut them in half.

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One of the ways that I have found to be safe while cutting barrels, gas tanks, or other questionable items is this: Fill it full of water to remove any flammable vapors, then cut it while full with a sawsall and a metal cutting blade. This creates less sparks (virtually none with a good blade) and if done right will only take a few minutes. The problem with a cutoff wheel in my opinion is all the sparks if any flammable vapors are still present it's a big source of ignition.

I've used this method many times to get rid of old gas tanks, the local metal recyclers won't take them unless you cut them in half.

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Thanks for the replies Mike,Mark. And especially for your great idea, Mikenstein.

Watch out for galvanized metals! Those always are really bad.

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One of the ways that I have found to be safe while cutting barrels, gas tanks, or other questionable items is this: Fill it full of water to remove any flammable vapors, then cut it while full with a sawsall and a metal cutting blade. This creates less sparks (virtually none with a good blade) and if done right will only take a few minutes. The problem with a cutoff wheel in my opinion is all the sparks if any flammable vapors are still present it's a big source of ignition.

I've used this method many times to get rid of old gas tanks, the local metal recyclers won't take them unless you cut them in half.

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I removed sawsall from the previous post I made since mine are electric and all the water coming out could be another shocking issue.

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This is a good time to mention that there is a lot of "free" information out there on what the basic controls do...A video can show you how to turn the knob and some basic demonstration of technique, but no matter how good, someone will find fault for "lacking" the particular piece of information that they wanted to know...same as the manual.

What a lot of guys are expecting, I fear is a years worth of theory, condensed down into a 1,2,3 do this, do that scenario. Welding just isn't that way guys. It takes years of practice, skill, training and retraining to get good and stay good. Welding is a skill...Skills are learned by doing, skills are kept sharp by doing. No video can adequately teach skill. A lot of variables enter into "recommendations" that some mfgr's offer and in fact, are sometimes not even in the ballpark. For expample, I have talked to "welders in training" who were having trouble with running a bead. They come to me because they know I can weld. They ask me what they are doing wrong. I ask them their settings. They give me boiler plate,standard issue settings. I can tell many are welding too cold, and a few too hot for their talent and skills. They are usually rather frustrated when I explain that the "heat" isn't correct. They almost invariably reply: That's what the book says, or that's what the machine says, or that's where the instructor told me to weld. I'll go into a booth with them and "max" out the machine for the electrode and lay a perfect bead, then I'll go and lay a bead at the minimum range for the electrode and lay another perfect bead. But for a new guy who hasn't developed the skill to weld or doesn't understand what's going on in the machine he is welding with, its frustrating to have a "preset" notion of if I can't weld at that recommendation, then something is wrong with my welding, when all he needs to do is experiment with a more comfortable amperage that gets the job done. In the field, sure there are regulations specifying amperage range and preheat and post heat requirements...but not when one is learning. But the greatest handicap in welding can be the unquestioning reliance upon the " book" settings.

The "punch" button machines are no more difficult to understand or run than your typical microwave...the problem is that most people don't read the owners manual to find out what to punch to keep the popcorn from burning...same is true with our welders. The manuals are designed to give a "heads up" discussion and not a welding primer. Typical welding books are in excess of 500 pages, that just begin to scratch the surface. While yes, a video will give some more clarity, it won't answer every question or every situation or problem encountered. It will likely cover basic technique and functions of the machines in a visual/ audio form. So, this is where YOU come in...You must practice, practice, practice, if you aren't familiar with the units or its capabilities...In so doing, experimentation is necessary.

If you don't like to experiment, or read, I doubt a welding video will be much of a help either. Welding is not an exact science....though some would disagree, it is a descendant of the great ART of blacksmithing,a trade that now has many "videos" about how-to.. But because one watches a video about it doesn't qualify one as a blacksmith, nor does one gain intimate knowlege of the art. The only way is to begin to experiment, and find out what works for you.

Most of our welders are quite advanced in features. I expect that we will have a dumbed" down AC/DC machine in the near future, but even then, proficiency will not be infused by a welding video...

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I think some people are starting to take advantage of your guys knowlege and kindness, I dont see miller doing what people are asking of you guys. I think if you really want to learn then you need to pay and go to school for it just like most good welders do. A little info here and there is great but if you need a video then you might as well at least take a community college course for welding....at the bare minimum.

Smackdaddy,

I agree to a point, but some people don't want to be professional welders, but do possess a certain amount of natural talent. I, myself was taught to weld by a master fabricator that recognized my natural ability and nurtured it. He was the one that encouraged me to take a few classes; I think to introduce me to doing this professionally, (certified). Although those classes where well and good to teach some of the basics, anything that can be read in a book, they could never teach as much as time under the hood and time under the hood watching an artist. I think that people who have the true talent can benefit greatly from the videos, and the rest can be trained to be good welders in the community colleges, IMHO.

Goat

Some of you were looking for videos. We are stilling working on them, however, here is one from a very popular website (http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com).

It is a first part look at the Everlast Power TIG (will apply to PowerMaster units as well).

This site should be in your bookmarks of it's not. It is loaded with information on welding and the fellow has a great since of humor as well.

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/...-settings.html

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What I am about to say is just one poor mans humble opinion. Take it for what it's worth. Miller and others have a name that is almost universally known throughout the welding universe. For a company like Everlast to attain this level there are a couple of paths to follow.

1. Build an exceptional product, offer exceptional customer service, provide services the big guys won't take the time to do (forums and videos), be available to the public for questions, critiques and suggestions.

or

2. Offer an exceptional product and hope eventually you will catch on in the marketplace.

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I think some people are starting to take advantage of your guys knowlege and kindness, I dont see miller doing what people are asking of you guys. QUOTE]

What I am about to say is just one poor mans humble opinion. Take it for what it's worth. Miller and others have a name that is almost universally known throughout the welding universe. For a company like Everlast to attain this level there are a couple of paths to follow.

1. Build an exceptional product, offer exceptional customer service, provide services the big guys won't take the time to do (forums and videos), be available to the public for questions, critiques and suggestions.

or

2. Offer an exceptional product and hope eventually you will catch on in the marketplace.

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I just got off the phone with a fellow (in Indiana) that wanted info on buying a TIG unit, he selected tech support. Looks like he wants the PM205. He was pleased to get help on a Sunday, so I think we do what we need to. Also, had a person this morning call in for a MIG 205.

We are not perfect by any means, but we get the job done.