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A minor hiccup on the base,,,it's the top rails that count as far as alignment goes,,, and they can/should be adjustable to run parrallel,,,the base can be out of square etc,,,and it will be once you load the slats and add weight to the table,,,,Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanMurphy265
For the most part my table portion is finished. I still need to add two pieces of tubing across the top for support. I'll make a run to the supplier for another stick of 2x2 square tube. I had to straighten my center legs. I should have ran two long pieces for my lower rails. I guess I had a brain fart when I started building the table. I have a little bit of welding left. There is a lower cross brace on the bottom center section that is not in the picture. I had to take it out so I could square up the middle legs. I started to let the middle legs slide, one side was leaning out and the other was leaning in. The table is square and the outer legs are square, but the middle legs made the table look like crap. I might sell this table one day so I figured I better fix it, and it bothered me how bad it looked!
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Power Arc 140st 7014 3/32 @ 93 amps - I absolutely love this welder! I use it more than all my other welders combined. It's handy, powerful, and easy to setup.
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I have to order my gear rack, concentric bushings, 1/4-28 bolts, and some type of sleeve for the bolts. The gear rack is the biggest expense I have left. Everything else I spend is more or less bonus stuff like torch height control and a z-axis. I have a linear actuator for a z axis I'm not sure if I will use it or not.
Looks good Sean.
You may find it to be a bit more stable and remain square after use if you add in some light duty X-bracing to triangulate the table a bit. This could be some angle, small square tube, round tube, etc.
Nevermind, I see the corner gussets going in now. I think I's still add some more in, if nothing else, to increase the stiffness for future loading or moving the table.
I look forward to seeing your first cuts over the summer.
Ok so I just ordered the rest of the parts I need for the table.
Concentric and Eccentric bushings from PBC linear -$45.65
Gear Rack, SS nuts and bolts, bronze bearing sleeves, double sided tape $191.09
I spent $7.00 at tractor Supply on some other fasteners that I need.
And.... as I am typing I realized that I did not or gear rack for my Y axis.... which will be $36.00 more $$$ On the positive side that is all the necessary expenses that I have left. I can get the table up and running. I do expect to spend $65.00 for another stick of tubing, but I may just go with angle iron.
Torch Height Control and Z axis ($250.00 touch and go) will come later, I figure I will add a touch and go before THC.
Glad to hear you are on budget,,didn't think that was possible,,,THC on a big table is almost a must, due to the flexing of the sheets etc...had to laugh at your use of the comealongs,,,been there done that myself,,,they are handy for that kinda stuff...hope to see more of your build,,,a 4 x 8 table is a big project,,,looks simple until you actually get into doing it,,,lots of alignment and measuring,,,then there is the distortion of the weld pulls on the parts,,,takes some doing,,,a real learning experience,,,,after this ,,you will be qualified to build anything..
Well, if I do this again I will go with 3 linear actuators! It will add to the cost, but cut the time in half.Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer
My gear rack arrived yesterday afternoon from McMaster 3-pcs 1/2" 20 tooth / 20 pitch (I think!) All my other fasteners arrived as well, and now I should have everything to at least get the table running.
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I'm not sure if you can tell by the picture, but the top piece of tubing (near side) bowed a little. How can I get it back straight? It has about a 3/8" bow. Where should I put heat to see if that would help?
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Hi Sean,,,question ?? how do you plan on attaching the gear rack to the table,,,epoxy, machine screws or what ??
I plan to either weld or bolt 4 12" pieces of 2x2x1/4 tubing on all four corners, and then bolt my rails to the corner tubes. The plans for the kit call for the gear rack to be double sided taped with this heavy duty tape from McMaster. I purchased the tape, but I am considering drilling and taping holes for set screws and loctite the set screws. From what I have read no one has not had an issue with the double sided tape, but I'm sure vibration over a long period of time will cause the rack to come loose. I have also considered welding some small 1/"2 tabs ever 6" or 12" and using machine screws to bolt the rack in place.
The reason I asked is someday I might face the same problem,,,not sure if you can drill & tap,,,don't know the rack's RC value,,my self I can see me epoxying the rack to a wide piece of flat bar and drilling and tapping that to the railQuote:
Originally Posted by SeanMurphy265
If you are going to try to take out that 3/8 bow,,you might consider a hacksaw cut at the bow middle and hammering or jacking it into position and rewelding and grinding,,,not a pleasant job,,,heat at this stage of the game won't do much,,,,,could position a timber along and/or above the rail to give you some thing to jack against....just a thought
I saw on CNC Zone where someone tacked their gear rack.
I have seen a few cnc tables were there just pop riveted at the ends with aluminum rivets and a thin bead of glue underneath since all the pressure is pushing down on rack could use jb weld but never would be able to remove the rack if needed
I think you have nailed the issue,,,when you think about it ,,the stresses are forcing the rails from end to end ,,, a rivet at each end should take the strain and doublesided tapes function is just to hold the rack in position....I can see this more clearly now...thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
this is the one i going to buy almost there with the funds Attachment 6387 its under 2000 and you get the computer and every thing just have to build the base i like the tracks facing down so you don't get spatter in the tracks and dirt this is the 4x4 but a couple of hundred more its a 4x8 like this to since all the cables are shielded computer lan cords with nice connections
is it bowed down or up
Who sells that kit? It looks a little lightweight, but probably fine for a plasma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5dTg...ature=youtu.behttp://shop.gearheadcnc.com/ not my fault they push longevity welders lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGNnO42dCboi would rather have aluminum than steel since there's no real weight
It's bowed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
I came real close to buying one of those, and might have been better off since I would be up and running. I was a little scared, but for the money it probably would have been worth the try. He has one setup that comes with everything including a plasma cutter.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportbike
I just ordered my Z-Axis from No Sleep Studio $249.00 + shipping. If everything goes well I hope to get most of my gantry built over the weekend.
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i like it since there using a china plasma cutter with the table wont name brand of plasma but close to a everlast lol and i like the computer lan cables they use since lan cables are really shielded good
are you going to make a separate gantry frame so you can tweak and level it .
Yes, the corners are level, on top rail has a bow that I think will work out with some weight on the table. I'm thinking about welding some pieces of tubing on the corners so I can bolt my 4 corner post for my gantry. The bolt my two rails to the corner post. I think this would be OK, because it would allow me to shim my corners with washers or think sheet metal if my gantry is not level. It would also give me some play to make sure my gantry rails are squared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
if the bow is up just find the highest point and lay a mig weld bead on lower side will pull the tube downward . we use to straighten bowed box tubing at a place i worked at also by heating the side that was bowed up and cooling it fast with a water hose would shrink the metal on the bowed side and pull it straight
I did not get as much done as i would like. I cut my plates for the gantry and drilled holes.
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Started assembling my carriages also.
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looking good takes time putting a cnc table together , hoping to get my cnc table kit next month , I am sorta thinking hate to say this but getting the LONGEVITY plasma with the kit since that is what the cnc table company is using and have seen torchmate tables using the LONGEVITY with know problems . everlast needs to get some information on there plasma's for use with cnc table for wiring and hooking up . I am just getting kit since can start on the base table now then will have everything ready to set up . since using this for my shop don't have time to wait for sit and wait for tech help .
You might want to check this one out!
I decided to add more bracing to the table. I was going to let the slats rest on the two outer tubes and let them support most of the weight. I think this will help disperse weight more evenly.
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Yikes! :O Well, at least the eBay seller is trying to open and honest about the product. Not sure if he'll get anything but looky-loos to his auction, though! Watching this build with great anticipation (as I am sure you are as well). Good luck with your progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanMurphy265
could be the guy just dont know how to use a cnc table and blaming it on the table and company lol
You are probably right on that,,had a closer look at the machine pic's,,, can see some area's that could be improved for stability and adjustment of the rails..problem is most people expect a trouble free product when they buy it,,,that's not the way the world works,,,everything in life is a compromise of some kind,,could be a good deal for some fellow with mechanical skills...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
I started working on my corner mounts for the gantry.
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I do like this guy at Eagle Plasma I've talked to him on the phone about his THC. I will save a some money doing it on my own, but for $3100.00 that's not bad for a turn key system. For what I have saved in money, I lost in time.
hi Sean,,,this project of yours is turning into a big project,,,course you probably figured that out by now,,,bottom line, there are no free lunches in life,,gotta scratch and dig for everything you get...nice welds on your pic's,,lots of practice on this project,,,LOL...look forward to more posts & pic's on the project..
like the 52 x 104 inch cutting area setup good price .
That one is the best deal for what you get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
Looks like a pretty good price--I've always wanted one but havent had a reason for one yet, lol. Maybe one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanMurphy265