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I dont care if its made on pluto, as soon as you open the everlast box and feel the components its apparent its a cheaply made product. Debate that all you like but when you are constantly having to say "check the cog for slippage" on a new part or "check this and that" its an inferior product
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Originally Posted by singlesupra
Well here you go: https://www.google.com/search?q=squa...utf-8&oe=utf-8
No, no nerve touched here. But don't expect a pass when you've made some inaccurate statements.
But seriously, let's be honest, YOU threw it away. They aren't throw away welders! The older Everlast welders are repairable and fixable, much more so than other machines in it's class in general. The boards are repairable as well. You are making a statement that is easily something that can be seen through. We use NAME brand components and the part numbers are usually right on the welder. We offer upgrades to the existing pedals and have for some time, with SSC controls. We also have improved our pedals and haven't had that pedal in seveal years, but most if they had an issue were fixable, and there were threads here on how to do so.
Also you are making a statement about an early unit that is no longer made. But we still fix them if they tear up. We have updated the foot pedal issue. You are making a current and dismissive assessment of the product line based on an Old, early design, and one that we are still supporting and repairing. You had an issue early on, but didn't really make the effort to resolve it. You dumped the unit and then bought something that isn't even in the same class and capability of the machine. You compare apples to oranges. But hey, who'd throw away a 1300 dollar welder over such a cheap and easy fix? Right? Boards for that machine are cheaper than what you quoted on yours...
But thanks for an opinion and closure on this thread 3 years after you started it. I just wish it had been more about your experience with the machine and less about a summation of the current Everlast product line (and really the line since 2010) as a whole.
It was about my experience about the damn welder, what are we talking about? Someone elses welder? You go to ANY website you guys are on and you blame shift everything. The "manuals" are terrible, you blame it on the printer. The pedals stop working, you tell the customer to check the cog, etc.. Accept responsibility, you sell inferior products compared to lincoln/miller. At everlasts price point it should be inferior, embrace that. Thats YOUR market. Dont try to pass the green machines off as something its not. Ive given my review, you dont like it, sorry. The green machine drones here may be biased enough to see that you have not once taken responsibility over this outcome but anyone looking to purchase and spend there hard earned dollars will surely see who is right and who is wrong. Goodluck with the businessQuote:
Originally Posted by performance
Nonsense,
Most forum members here and elsewhere have seen the good character, reasonableness, and effort of Everlast staff toward their customers and welding units. I mean, I certainly have.
The manuals are not "terrible". They're quit good, not flawless. I mean, what are you expecting, pop-out diorama scenes.
The quality, superior value, superior warrantee, and their support has earned Everlast the undoubted top spot for imported units on the North American continent. And this very forum is an example of an added benefit of Everlast service.
Of course, the Lincoln SW 175 is a proverbial yacht anchor; it's under-powered and over-priced, especially since it has almost no features at all. I mean, it's priced around what my 210EXT is, except without: AC Frequency Control, AC Balance, Digital Interface, Wave Forms, Memory Settings, Compactness, etc. And that's why the SW 175 is not being produced anymore, because it can't compete with Everlast units like my own 210EXT, which out-classes the SW 175 in every way.
Yeah, the great majority of us Everlast customers, that you're apparently calling "drones", are happily spending our money on great Everlast units, and keeping more of our money in our pockets while enjoying units and feature-sets that would otherwise cost two or three times as much. So, we're happy, what's your problem?
Anyway, it seems like you're needlessly blaming Everlast for "my experience", which is your emotions or so-called "feelings", of which only you control, or fail to. And, again, Everlast has many examples that I've seen of this forum where it has seemingly gone above and beyond for many of its customers. That's just an objective fact of reality that both yours and my own subjective "experience" cannot rightly refute.
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Originally Posted by singlesupra
Obviously it is NOT soley about your experience with the welder as you are categorically making comments about the company and ALL the products in general...even in your rebuttal. C'mon. I am not blame shifting, but putting it squarely where it needs to be. You gave up after 3 hours you said. You didn't follow though and you are making categorical comments based on a 7 year old product that did have a limited run. The manuals? Have you even read them? They are online and they are for everyone to see. We don't blame printers.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesupra
And the fact is Ill be passing my lincoln down to my kids while you cant even remember your green machineQuote:
Originally Posted by christian
You sound childish and make foolish assumptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesupra
3 hours? No, try 3 years(as my posts have clearly said) of dealing with almost always something being wrong with it. So what you are saying is I happen to purchased a bad run? Look bud, you can try all you want but theres a reason you see 500 blue or red machines on a job site to every green one you see. Thats my point, its a hobby welder, at best, but in your defense its priced accordinglyQuote:
Originally Posted by performance
So again, as I said, good luck with the company and I hope people who are on the fence of buying a quality welder realize that by the time you replace all the junk accys that come with everlast that they are not far or even on price on a machine that will still be welding for there kids. Even you yourself keep bringing up the fact that it was a "7 year old welder", exactly my point, these things are not made for the long haul. It wasnt 7 years old when I purchased it and was advertised buy you guys as top of the line at the time.
I have no stake in your company I just hope people see my real world review, not like 99% of the other everlast reviews, but an actual review after several years. Im sure a few, and I mean a very few, may last but thats the difference between everlast/any of the "import" machines, they are throw away welders that if you get 2 or 3 years out of them with no issues count yourself lucky
Again, you are not even making fair comparisons or reasonable assertions. 1) The accessories you received have been change a LONG time ago. 2) Your unit was an early transition model away from MOSFET to IGBT technology in 2009. 3) With other name brands you have to buy the accessories, which again adds to your purchase cost, which again offsets the difference 4) We offer upgrades to our accessory packages as well in the likes of SSC and CK worldwide. 4) We have a lot of those old units, and even our old mosfets dating back to 2004 still in service. We still stock parts and consumables for them, and if we don't have them, we still can get them and repair them if we are out. 5) We have huge name companies in everything from racing to the aerospace industry using our products daily. You are far behind the progress we made in the past 7 years. I have put whole fleets of our products in Union hall training centers. I have put multiple units in many welding schools, many well known all across this country. We have international distributors on every continent except Antarctica. 6) We are have had 7 years of consecutive growth, in the double digits. 7) We've invested major money in our factories, production, QC and testing over the last few years. 8) We have monthly productions inspections (in person) and regular, un-announced separate independent inspections of the production facilities.
You said you only used it for 3 hours before you had issues and then you indicated you gave up after that. Previously you said you had only used it about 20 times. Really doesn't sound right to me, as in there is something not adding up.
As far as passing that unit on, the 175 has been problematic, and numerous changes have been made. I have LIncoln stuff too. One control board on a well sold Ranger 8, which are designed to last for years was out of production, only 8 years after it was made. It was problematic and they had made new ones, but the old ones weren't the same or interchangeable. They said it would take 6-8 weeks to get a new one produced and they'd have to schedule a production run to do it after I ordered it...and it was going to be over 400.0 for a simple control board without much on it. I had to have it repaired at a third party facility and it still cost nearly 200.00 for it. Think again. Lincoln is selling stuff made in China now, that is assembled in Mexico, and they are having all sorts of issues with their stuff...stuff we've never even had an issue with on our products. And people are steamed...as they were out of replacement units and parts for several months. I am you will pass the 175 on, and am sure your children will enjoy you passing on an outdated and orphaned boat anchor to them.
Not quite sure where you are getting your information, Ive clearly said time and time and time again I bought the damn thing, it came half ### working. After weeks/months of dealing with the "check this, check that" of everlast support it was determined the pedal was the root cause of most of the issues. Fast forward 2 years or so, after using it for maybe 20 times, the unit would not do anything other than the HF arc. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. But then again, after doing a quick search it seems many many many others have had the same issue. Need links?Quote:
Originally Posted by performance
Dont try to twist my words, you are already coming across as an ### already and Im sure once this thread is searched more and more people see how arrogant you have been you will lose even more customers. So again, good luck with the company. This will be my last response to you. If people find there way to this thread and think you have handled yourself professionally and want to purchase the throw away welders, it doesnt effect me either way. If they see what they already knew and it costs you sales, thats fine with me also.
Now, if you have anything else to say to me feel free to PM me and we can meet for a beer, I travel quite a lot and have no issue finishing this face to face. I am honestly shocked you have the time to respond with as many products you have that have issues. Just click the back button and scroll down the forum for proof.
And btw, my boat anchor still outwelded the everlast in every metal I ever used it on. I had several career welders who tried using the everlast with about as good of luck as I had with it. Oh, but I forgot, that was a ragged unit that wasnt in production long. In a couple years, the ones you are rebadging now(or painting green, however you want to spell it) will be blamed on something else as well.
To anyone else who happens to google search there way here, dont take my word for it. Google long and hard, find reviews after a few years. Sure, SOME of the everlast come out of the box working but thats not a real review.
Last post I promise, as for the crap accys, I still have the "regulator" that came with the unit. In one of the times it was actually working(or maybe it was one of the times I was fooling with the stupid thing trying to troubleshoot it) I hear a loud POP, look over and the regulator blew itself apart LOL. BUT this is everlast and Im sure it was because it was one of the "old units and are now not shipped with the cheapest regulator money can buy from a Chinese sweatshop".
I'm sure we all know every forum attracts those that need to make sure the rest of the world is aware that "they" are the biggest @sshole in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama
This is too funny. (A plant for sure)
You joined our forum in Aug 2009, then sold your welder in 2013 (that is a long time for 20 uses or 3 hours; whichever)?
Now it's 2016, years later and you come here to post about a welder you bought 7 years ago? Our units have improved for sure in that time. But if you had a problem in 2009, or 2013, I would think you would be over it by now and moved on. Sheesh.
I too have owned Lincoln and Miller as well. Our units weld just the same. If you see weldingtipsandtricks.com video, he uses our units quite often as well. Longest case of sour grapes I have ever seen. Also, I still have a couple of the old regulators in service with no problems.
Did you really just accuse me of being a plant? After I purhcased the welder directly from you? Actually I ran across this post after another person asked me about how it was holding up so it reminded me to update the thread. Your products are junk, your attitude here is on par. I had nothing but issues with the thing from day one, with proof. Keep up the snide remarks, it just proves what kind of company you guys run and everytime someone searches this they will see. Honestly Im suprised you havnt deleted this thread like the ones you did on several other forums....Quote:
Originally Posted by everlastsupport
Maybe they want others to see you make a fool of yourself. For every whinny child like you, there are thousands of happy adult customers welding with Everlast.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesupra
I've owned Everlast machines for at least 6 years now. I've had one minor problem that I repaired myself. All my machines work perfectly.
I'm not being rude, also I have not disabled any thread on "our forums or any". Your odd timeline just seems fishy to me, that's all (like you had an adgend of some kind).. Probably others might think that as well. Just the facts, nothing rude. You are the one that came back to insult us.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesupra
I, like Mark, have used everlast since working there (lincoln died, thought I would save money). I've had one machine break (couple years ago; it happens), an it was replaced. All others, I have 6 now, but have owned many over 8 years, even the model you had.
People would not be here or buy if we were what "YOU" claim. And I guess that was not your last post.
Anyway, sorry you were disappointed, but I can assure most are not.