Who makes the best ER70S-6 mig wire ?
Is there a difference in quality between manufacturers ?
Where do you buy ?
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Who makes the best ER70S-6 mig wire ?
Is there a difference in quality between manufacturers ?
Where do you buy ?
I guess I have not compared... But I usually get mine from Harbor Freight... It used to be if you broke $50 you would get free shipping... Plus there is a store nearby. They do stock it here...Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama585
http://www.harborfreight.com/0030-in...oll-42919.html
I buy cheap wire!!! but yes there is a difference and I know people who will only buy Lincoln wire. Lately I have been using Radnor wire and have had good luck, but I have read were people had problems. I have also used some inweld mig wire and tig rods with good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama585
A guy in my town has a machine/welding shop and bought a roll of cheap mig wire because a salesman told him it was good stuff. All of the sudden his machine started going nuts; he would weld and the machine would start sputtering and then clear out and run smooth. It continued over and over again and he thought something was wrong with his welder. He bought a new liner for his gun, new drive wheels, and it still did the same thing again and again. He finally unrolled 4-5 feet of wire and it had some some places where the wire was thicker than .045. He unrolled another 4-5 feet of wire and checked it as well and the same thing again. I have heard other people having similar problems. From what the guy told me he unrolled 25-30 feet of lincoln wire and checked it as well; he said it measured correct with no variances.
National makes a GOOD wire.
But the best?
ESAB OK Aristorod 12.50
Without a shadow of a doubt.
For a decent cheapy...Techniweld.
I'll never buy HF wire again. I buy Lincoln and Hobart at the lowest end. Chicago Electric was the worst wire I ever bought, so bad I stopped welding and pulled it from the machine. Bad arc, breaks, jams, crappy weld quality, etc.
Maybe next time I will have to give another kind a try... Hate to say it out loud... But I have never had a break or jam with their wire. I have used miles of it. As far as quality... Hard to say a lot of the stuff I use it on is rusty and dirty. Almost always used for fixing rather than projects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trip59
Thanks, I'll try the Esab.Quote:
Originally Posted by performance
I have good results with Harris ER70S-6 and if you compare the detailed specifications with Lincoln, Hobart, Radnor, Victor etc they're all identical in composition.
Maybe these welders are tuned with Aristrorod, it's the one ESAB product that is made in China. :D
It's funny, where I used to work we had an ESAB that ran best on Hobart wire, and a Hobart that was best with ESAB SpoolArc 86. The machines were used for different jobs, but I always thought that was odd. If you swapped wires, neither machine worked as well. I was told at the time it had to do with the inductance of the machines as these did not have all the bells and whistles of modern MIG welders.
I use any wire that's the cheapest , to me they weld all the same to me if i adjust gas flow , some need more gas flow and some need less . most the time i use forney mig wire , since best price were i live
I can't find the Esab wire... any suggestions ?Quote:
Originally Posted by performance
You can usually buy it through your local distributor. It is worth every cent trust me. Don't give up on it. Try the national brand next though if you just can't find it or order it through your lws.
Praxiar, Wescoweld.com
I use Harris as well. Tried Hobart but the Harris feels betterQuote:
Originally Posted by X83
Hahaha.... Right after you said you would try it, I thought I would look into it... I found a 20 or 40Lb box of it on ebay and nothing else. I thought I would wait and see what you posted where you got it from. I can find listings for it but no retailers... At least in my limited looking. Was curious what the price is. If it is a little higher or extremely expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoama585
The 40lb roll on ebay is $115 with shipping... that's pretty steep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Ski
It's about 80.00 per roll locally with shipping (if it has to be special ordered). It's a 44lb roll. With reduced spatter, and less pre weld cleanup and all factor's considered, it isn't bad at all. Again, it's worth it to me.
I ask my lws if they will order it monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by performance
I have to agree with you Rod,,,but there are differences in the metal in the wire, depending on the maker,,,which takes me back to my early days in the oldmans body shop,,if you had an American car and an import with the paint on the fenders ground off,,and left them over night or over the weekend,,,in the morning the import would have a yellowish tinge of oxidation on the exposed metal,,,likely due to the absense of chome in the recycled metal used to build them,,,today everything is recycled metal and that can affect the heat required to melt it or the gas required to protect it,,,So each maker of wire makes it to the spec,, but there are subtle differences..most important thing is to get properly packaged and stored wire,,,,rusty wire from a good maker is stil crap..Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop
Always been happy with Lincoln SuperArc 70S6 for mild steel. S/F....Ken M
My lws wants $100=shipping for a 40LB roll... I told them NO.