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    there is suppose to be a better owners manual here some place I received the Tig 200P AC/DC welder last week and getting ready to use it do you connect it to air or just argon? It came here on time and seems to be in good shape I am waiting for tungsten and welding rods. I also have to get argon does it have to be a big tank or will a small tank work. I had played with a big water cooled welder years ago

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    For the manuals go to http://www.everlastwelders.com/manuals

    Air is for plasma cutting. Argon and mixed gas is for welding.

    Tank size... A good starting tank would be a 80-125cf tank. They go fast when you start learning so that is a small but good starting tank.

    Make sure you turn off the tank valve when you are done welding. If you want to PM me a phone number I can call you and get more details, but the above will work for you. You will save a lot of money if you jump to a K size tank, but it will weigh over 200 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everlast_support View Post
    For the manuals go to http://www.everlastwelders.com/manuals

    Air is for plasma cutting. Argon and mixed gas is for welding.

    Tank size... A good starting tank would be a 80-125cf tank. They go fast when you start learning so that is a small but good starting tank.

    Make sure you turn off the tank valve when you are done welding. If you want to PM me a phone number I can call you and get more details, but the above will work for you. You will save a lot of money if you jump to a K size tank, but it will weigh over 200 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emoelectric View Post
    there is suppose to be a better owners manual here some place I received the Tig 200P AC/DC welder last week and getting ready to use it do you connect it to air or just argon? It came here on time and seems to be in good shape I am waiting for tungsten and welding rods. I also have to get argon does it have to be a big tank or will a small tank work. I had played with a big water cooled welder years ago
    For Tig you want argon for mig you need 75% - 25% mix for steel and argon for aluminum if you have a spool gun. I have 80 cubic foot tanks for both Tig and Mig they are just right if your welder is on a standard cart ... not so heavy to make it hard to roll your cart. The full size tanks are just too heavy. Once you figure out your optimum gas flow the 80 tanks will serve well ... smaller cup on your torch you should be fine with 8 to 10 cfm for TIG on my Mig set up I set the flow around 22.
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    I like my 125cf tank for my PP205.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRM View Post
    I like my 125cf tank for my PP205.
    You save on money with the 125cf tank and I would probably go that route as well if I didn't need to move them around the shop so much on my small carts ... I use multiple gases so the 85's just seem to work well for me ... 125's ARE a great choice for economy reasons.
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    oxy-acetylene torches and tanks
    various mechanics and metal working tools
    Bead-flange roller, English wheel, ring roller etc, etc.

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    winky i thinks the same a 80 is a good tank for size a pair of 80 work out good since if you run out on a weekend you have a spare, the bigger ones are heavy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop View Post
    winky i thinks the same a 80 is a good tank for size a pair of 80 work out good since if you run out on a weekend you have a spare, the bigger ones are heavy
    I've been checking the cost of tanks and to refill. Not a whole lot of difference between 80 and 125 in my area for either but you bring up a good point. If I only have one tank .... no backup. Question, what is the best / proper way to establish whether a tank is getting low? Pressure gauge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by undercut View Post
    I've been checking the cost of tanks and to refill. Not a whole lot of difference between 80 and 125 in my area for either but you bring up a good point. If I only have one tank .... no backup. Question, what is the best / proper way to establish whether a tank is getting low? Pressure gauge?
    At first it may sound like a dumb question... But actually there is a difference.

    With an Argon tank or oxygen tank you can check the amount by a pressure gauge... Full is about 2200 PSI or so... Some people call empty about 100PSI. These gases are stored as a high pressure gas.

    Now straight CO2 or acetylene is different, like propane. They will show full pressure until they are almost empty. Then they usually drop fast. These gases are stored as a liquid...

    BTW if you find yourself welding a lot on weekends pick up a spare tank. I like to get a smaller tank and bump up when you get it refilled. Or you may get a better deal on another 80 cf if you just buy it at one time instead of bumping up a size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ski View Post
    At first it may sound like a dumb question... But actually there is a difference.

    With an Argon tank or oxygen tank you can check the amount by a pressure gauge... Full is about 2200 PSI or so... Some people call empty about 100PSI. These gases are stored as a high pressure gas.

    Now straight CO2 or acetylene is different, like propane. They will show full pressure until they are almost empty. Then they usually drop fast. These gases are stored as a liquid...

    BTW if you find yourself welding a lot on weekends pick up a spare tank. I like to get a smaller tank and bump up when you get it refilled. Or you may get a better deal on another 80 cf if you just buy it at one time instead of bumping up a size.
    Hi Brian, That would explain why I wasn't sure about the answer. I remember some posts talking about tanks emptying without much warning and others talking about whether they checked the pressure of their tanks after getting filled to ensure it really was filled properly. I didn't take much stock in it because, at the time, I never thought I would ever need argon. Nice to know. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by undercut View Post
    Hi Brian, That would explain why I wasn't sure about the answer. I remember some posts talking about tanks emptying without much warning and others talking about whether they checked the pressure of their tanks after getting filled to ensure it really was filled properly. I didn't take much stock in it because, at the time, I never thought I would ever need argon. Nice to know. Thanks.
    I think when a tank empties fast you are really busy on a long project and not watching the gauges... The other thing to watch is make sure you shut the valve off all the when you are done using the tank. Hate to come back a week or 2 later and find out tanks are low. BTW also a good idea to open the valves all the way. The valves seal better all the way open. I usually don't because I don't use them very long. Few minutes and then go on to another project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop View Post
    winky i thinks the same a 80 is a good tank for size a pair of 80 work out good since if you run out on a weekend you have a spare, the bigger ones are heavy
    Yea, that's my issue with the big tanks they are really heavy ... when I was younger I could handle it a lot better but now that I'm pushing 60 it's getting harder and harder to muscle things around ... space is another issue, my shop is fair size but not huge so when I'm doing several projects at once it gets a bit crowed working around things. I use four gasses ... steel mix, argon, acetylene and O2. I am going to go to larger oxy/acetylene tanks eventually because mine are small and cost way too much to use as often as I would like to. Brian Ski had a very good point about remembering to shut the tanks off when done; nothing is worse than going to start a project when you know you had plenty of gas at the end of your last session and discovering ... "oops ... what the ... ah **** I'm out of gas".
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    Chicago Electric 130 DC Tig inverter
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    oxy-acetylene torches and tanks
    various mechanics and metal working tools
    Bead-flange roller, English wheel, ring roller etc, etc.

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    Is there a manual for the powertig 230EX? I can't seem to find it.

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    No. The 250EX would be the same other than some of input output specs. That's an aussie model. You can ask for a manual supplement from them I suppose to cover the differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    No. The 250EX would be the same other than some of input output specs. That's an aussie model. You can ask for a manual supplement from them I suppose to cover the differences.
    So Im asking the dealer here or in the usa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikstiks View Post
    So Im asking the dealer here or in the usa?
    If you are just looking for instructions and controls, you can download the manual for the 250EX HERE.
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