EDIT: SORRY! I SAW YOUR POST FIRST AND RESPONDED IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT ACTUALLY READING THE REST OF THE THREAD! SEEMS LIKE PLENTY OF FOLKS HAVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU THE SAME ADVICE! WELL, THAT MUST MEAN IT'LL WORK!
"It's not magic it's experimental, kind of like washing your hands after pooping used to be." -House
Everlast PowerTig 250EX-arrived 1-26-2012
Everlast PowerCool W300-arrived 1-26-2012
Everlast PowerTig 185 Micro-arrived 1-26-2012
Everlast PowerPlasma 70-arrived 1-26-2012
ESAB MigMaster 250-borrowed
HyperTherm 151 AKA "The Light Sabre"
Linde UCC-305-964 lb. of old time water cooled TIG love-SOLD-Bad MOJO
Temperature conditions do vary across the continent for sure...But so do rainfall conditions. Each must be prepared for. As far as I can tell we are about in line with other main line companies recommendations (If anyone has seen info contrary or much different from ours let me know, and I will discuss more with the factories).
Just as you wouldn't (I hope) consider leaving the unit out in the rain and plan for it, so must temperature be given the same consideration. The light bulb (incandescent..though getting hard to find) thing does work. A blanket or cover can help too...Shoot a styrofoam cooler turned up side down with a small light bulb in the top would work as well.
All great ideas for the cold which was around 5 F for a solid week last winter (teens and 20's are pretty frequent). I might add that I have acquired a device called a Thermocube Model TC-3 that has 2 outlets on it and will turn on a lamp (or other heat source up to 15A) in an enclosure at 35 F and off at 45 F (I use one in my pump house with heat lamps for freeze protection). I like the small box idea and have fiberglass foil faced Duct board and aluminum refrigeration tape I can use to build for the short term fix.
Summer here is another issue. The summer temps this year (near 101W by 33N) were above 105 many days and topped 116 on several making my steel shop building near 125 on more than one occasion. The duct board enclosure might work for summer since the cement slab could potentially keep its interior lower than ambient shop temps.
Rainfall. I have forgotten what that is like since we still have not had much for over a year now. 1/4" is a big rain now.
Miller Bobcat 3 Phase,
Miller Suitcase X-Treme 12VS wire feeder for the Bobcat with M-25 300A .045" gun / Bernard 400A 5/64" wire mig gun .
26 series gas cooled TIG torch, setup for quick connect to Bobcat.
17 series gas cooled Tig Torch for Low Amp Solar Tig (Direct Solar Panel Powered Tig welding)
Hobart Handler 187 Mig / Fluxcore
EVERLAST PowerUltra 205P
EVERLAST PowerTig 250 EXT 2013 Model
Interesting...especially since my unit is in transit for delivery as we speak...lows nearing 10 degrees tonight with 40 mph winds...hope ups has a light bulb on in the back of the truck....
Are these recommended temps for storage or for usage?
What allows vehicles to be out in cold weather with no problems? I'm sure they are full of electronics. My Miller Bobcat sits on the back of a truck outside with no problems ( -18 at the moment ), they even tell you what oil to use when its -30 ( 30 below zero ) or colder.
Edit: Also, I see welders hanging from road construction cranes at night, year round.
Last edited by todmorg; 01-03-2012 at 03:06 PM.
Bobcats don't have as many tiny solenoids or relays with close tolerances that depend upon split second timing to open and close in conjunction with other operation.
Largely, the recommendation is for concerning overall operation, after reviewing some factory information, I have received. Reliable operation below that is not guaranteed. Mostly I know we are being conservative, but IF you look, at your auto dark helmets, I challenge you to find one that will operate below 14 degrees F (according to factory recommendation) or recommend long term storage below that. Storage can go lower, but IF you go below sub zero, you are asking for problems.
Yes, you see welders hanging from cranes at night....and you see guys driving around with their O/A cylinders uncapped...Jobsites pay little attention to owner's manuals, and guidelines in particular, like oil changes etc.
Air Conditioning condensers sits outside all winter long with electrolytic start caps, are they rated different than the Everlast caps?
I am asking about storage temps, not operating temps.
I've got piles of equipment in cold storage with capacitors, and even a large crate of spare power supply caps in cold storage.