PowerTIG 225LX delivered today...

[Zoomie]

Well,
I received my PowerTIG 225LX today! The good news it came one day early. Cool! Bad news is, there was some shipping damage :rolleyes:. The exterior box was in reasonably good shape so I accepted it from UPS. When I popped the shipping box open. The accessory box contained within was burst and the cable foot pedal, torch spares were everywhere. The welder itself had a cracked rear plastic cover/fan shroud and one of the case screws had popped out and was missing. I placed a call and sent an email to Everlast but haven't heard back from them, probably due to the holiday. I guess now is as good a time as any to see how good their customer sevice is while I still have return priviledges :). I'll keep everyone advised...

Zoom

[Ray]

Zoomie, Please call +18777559353 Ext 203. \

We'll help you determine the extent of the damage and get things rolling.

877-755-9353

[Zoomie]

PM'd ya Ray...

[Ray]

PM'd ya back,
if you don't get a chance to call back today, call me tomarow, I'm not doing anything special untill later.

Ray

[Titan winch]

Please do not take this as any Bashing on my part but i am getting fed up with US Courier Services .
I ship winches in 1/2" thick cardboard with the winches wrapped in bubble wrap and i still get damage whenever it goes South of the Border . Sent a replacement Motor for a winch just today.
I very seldomnly have any damage on the Canadian side and yet no matter what i try to do to protect the packaging i know sooner or later there will be a problem. And to make matters worse i had put Synthetic line on the Winch so the weight was down to 63 lbs
Sorry for the Hijack i just get a little peed off when i hear this especially when it has just happened to one of my customers the very same day
Cheers

[Ray]

I agree,
I would like to talk about using the “Shock Watch” cards on the packages.
They turn red when a preset G-force is exceeded.
I hate to say it but I’ll bet the winches (as well) have made in … on the outside of the box??

[everlastsupport]

Well, I can say this year compared to last year was not near as bad. There was a bad bezel a day at least.

This years only a couple, though I would prefer no shipping damage at all.

UPS will be UPS. They do not handle larger packages well at all.

A number of customers I talk to tell me they love Fed Ex and hate UPS, so it is not just Everlast.

[Den]

I assume your products are shipped to the customer in the same carton that they arrived in from China. Are they opened and inspected prior to being shipped out from your US distribution center?

-Dennis

[everlastsupport]

With the volume that ship from California (main US warehouse) they are lot sampled. A lot of times we have to add things to the box as well. They are in the same Everlast box from the factory. If we have a problem area, we have wrapped units is bubble plastic.

All Everlast distributors (smaller volumes), far as I know, open each unit and inspect them. Everlast Canada (Duncan) and Everlast Alaska (Ray) actually they fire units up as well.

[Rivets]

With the volume that ship from California (main US warehouse) they are lot sampled. A lot of times we have to add things to the box as well. They are in the same Everlast box from the factory. If we have a problem area, we have wrapped units is bubble plastic.

All Everlast distributors (smaller volumes), far as I know, open each unit and inspect them. Everlast Canada (Duncan) and Everlast Alaska (Ray) actually they fire units up as well.

Mike,

This last post and the one above from you, speak volumes.

1-Why could Everlast not use a carrier that has a better track record than the current one ?

2-Why could Everlast not inspect and fire up every unit they ship ? Surely customer satisfaction should trump the wage costs of extra staff ?

3-Looks like US customers are playing a bit of roulette in that they may or may not be lucky to receive a unit, the construction of which was supervised in China by Duncan.

Maybe folks will want to order units from Canada !!!

Am I the only one to see all this ? :confused:

Cheers,
Rivets

[everlastsupport]

Mike,

This last post and the one above from you, speak volumes.

1-Why could Everlast not use a carrier that has a better track record than the current one ?


We have been talking about a FedEx option. For extra money of course, and Oleg is looking into FedEx now as well. But if the unit is dropped hard by FedEX, same problem. Maybe less of it, we do not know. But many people I speak to really talk up FedEX. Also, I have no decision in who we use.



2-Why could Everlast not inspect and fire up every unit they ship ? Surely customer satisfaction should trump the wage costs of extra staff ?


That again, this is not a question I can answer, I just explained how we do it. If we new everyone would be in favor if a price hike, I would think that it would have been done. Maybe Everlast US needs to stop the free US shipping, then the users can fit the shipping bill? Again, up to the boss.
But, if we fire each unit, it still has to ship from us to the customer. Even Duncan said that US carriers are bad, they damage winches, in a very thick box. He has no major problem in Canada.



3-Looks like US customers are playing a bit of roulette in that they may or may not be lucky to receive a unit, the construction of which was supervised in China by Duncan.


Again, when you see the number of units with no problems against the few that do. I think it is a Sales and Marketing thing and Oleg would be the best to answer. I answered the questions on how we do it, I do not dictate it. Also, they are tested at the factory and nothing really gets damaged on the boat. So the shiping channel is the only place I would focus on, and tested or not, it might still not work.



Maybe folks will want to order units from Canada !!!


Some people do. I send people to our Canadian group myself different reason, "but" you pay shipping and duties when you do. If you think you have a better chance on the shipper and some extra cash, that is an option for sure. But if it is dropped by mistake, odds are some will still get dropped, testing it does no good in some cases.

Also, I think you can ask for the unit to be shipped from Everlast US to you via FedEX for an extra fee. I know we talked about it.

[Rivets]

We have been talking about a FedEx option. For extra money of course, and Oleg is looking into FedEx now as well. But if the unit is dropped hard by FedEX, same problem. Maybe less of it, we do not know. But many people I speak to really talk up FedEX. Also, I have no decision in who we use.


That again, this is not a question I can answer, I just explained how we do it. If we new everyone would be in favor if a price hike, I would think that it would have been done. Maybe Everlast US needs to stop the free US shipping, then the users can fit the shipping bill? Again, up to the boss.
But, if we fire each unit, it still has to ship from us to the customer. Even Duncan said that US carriers are bad, they damage winches, in a very thick box. He has no major problem in Canada.



Again, when you see the number of units with no problems against the few that do. I think it is a Sales and Marketing thing and Oleg would be the best to answer. I answered the questions on how we do it, I do not dictate it. Also, they are tested at the factory and nothing really gets damaged on the boat. So the shiping channel is the only place I would focus on, and tested or not, it might still not work.



Some people do. I send people to our Canadian group myself different reason, "but" you pay shipping and duties when you do. If you think you have a better chance on the shipper and some extra cash, that is an option for sure. But if it is dropped by mistake, odds are some will still get dropped, testing it does no good in some cases.

Also, I think you can ask for the unit to be shipped from Everlast US to you via FedEX for an extra fee. I know we talked about it.

Hey Mike all good answers, thank you.

Maybe my logic is too simplistic when I believe that on the other side of the coin, Everlast could save money when most of the shipping and DOA issues are avoided in the first place and don't need to be dealt with.

But, then again that's only me and what I glean from this forum.

Time for me to keep quiet now and cross my fingers for a pristine unit.

Cheers,
Rivets

[Titan winch]

My US shipping is all done through FedEx so i am not really sure it is any better. In Canada i use DHL they are a little more expensive but on the whole i have a good track record with them in both minimal damage and faster shipping .
Happy New Year

[everlastsupport]

Duncan,

Funny, when we had DHL here in the US, I couldn't wait for them to be gone. Then they were and UPS came along. I would score them a little better actually, but not what I hoped for. Not sure why US shipping is so bad.

Rivets,

We ship a lot of units and a few get damaged. It is not a large amount, but the person that receives that damaged unit gets upset, sometimes drops a bomb on the forum. "Normally" they will call on the phone, we get them fixed and there is sometimes a delay for them for a part. Do you really think all the people that had no shipping damage rush to our forum and post? I wish they did, many do not know we have a forum. In the past, we did offer free consumables for posting and some would, but we stopped that program.

It's a simple fact you have to deal with when you ship volume, heavy items these days.

And, take my word on this, no one does a better job on units going out the door than Duncan (Titan_Winch) and even he just posted his comments about the US carriers and even FedEx. We do the best we can.

What still amazes me. If I bought a product and it was broke, shipping or otherwise, I would be on the "phone" and get it resolved. If it was not resolved, a public media/forum I guess after I called my credit card company. So many jump the gun, costing everyone in the process. But again, I hear a "blue" forum has a ton of hate post these days. Must be a new generation with bashing people, good or bad.

On a side note. A few negative comments stopped me from buying a Craftsman Twin Cutter yesterday. There was maybe 5 negative reviews out of 18 total. I am sure Sears sold more than 18. But I didn't go get one. Figured I have a plasma cutter, cut-off wheels, chop saws, band saws. It would have helped the economy or Sears, but I opted not to get one.

[Rivets]

Duncan,

Funny, when we had DHL here in the US, I couldn't wait for them to be gone. Then they were and UPS came along. I would score them a little better actually, but not what I hoped for. Not sure why US shipping is so bad.

Rivets,

We ship a lot of units and a few get damaged. It is not a large amount, but the person that receives that damaged unit gets upset, sometimes drops a bomb on the forum. "Normally" they will call on the phone, we get them fixed and there is sometimes a delay for them for a part. Do you really think all the people that had no shipping damage rush to our forum and post? I wish they did, many do not know we have a forum. In the past, we did offer free consumables for posting and some would, but we stopped that program.

It's a simple fact you have to deal with when you ship volume, heavy items these days.

And, take my word on this, no one does a better job on units going out the door than Duncan (Titan_Winch) and even he just posted his comments about the US carriers and even FedEx. We do the best we can.

What still amazes me. If I bought a product and it was broke, shipping or otherwise, I would be on the "phone" and get it resolved. If it was not resolved, a public media/forum I guess after I called my credit card company. So many jump the gun, costing everyone in the process. But again, I hear a "blue" forum has a ton of hate post these days. Must be a new generation with bashing people, good or bad.

On a side note. A few negative comments stopped me from buying a Craftsman Twin Cutter yesterday. There was maybe 5 negative reviews out of 18 total. I am sure Sears sold more than 18. But I didn't go get one. Figured I have a plasma cutter, cut-off wheels, chop saws, band saws. It would have helped the economy or Sears, but I opted not to get one.

Mike,

Again, thanks for the update.

I spent the whole Thanksgiving weekend researching both Everlast and Longevity units. (I had already concluded that I could'nt afford a Red or a Blue). I read tons of posts, both negative and positive.

After talking to Oleg, I prepaid a PP256. So yeah, I did put my faith in you guys because I felt that the positives outweighed the negatives.

Trust me, I am upbeat about this purchase and if there are hiccups I will take the high road and call you for a resolution.

Cheers,
Rivets

[everlastsupport]

Mike,

Again, thanks for the update.

I spent the whole Thanksgiving weekend researching both Everlast and Longevity units. (I had already concluded that I could'nt afford a Red or a Blue). I read tons of posts, both negative and positive.

After talking to Oleg, I prepaid a PP256. So yeah, I did put my faith in you guys because I felt that the positives outweighed the negatives.

Trust me, I am upbeat about this purchase and if there are hiccups I will take the high road and call you for a resolution.

Cheers,
Rivets

Glad you made the right choice and we will be here. I cover the weekends most of the time as well, long as my hands are not dirty or not in the middle of something. FYI, that box will be about 70+ lbs :D

[Zoomie]

Howdy all! It seems my thread has drifted a little since I originally posted. Just to clarify, I'm a fraz disappointed, but not with the company I chose to do business with. I would say it’s more about the time I have than anything (or lack thereof). I contacted customer service via telcon and email during the holidays. I'm sure there is going to be a delay. Shoot, I EXPECT there to be a delay this time of year! Ray and Mark contacted me after my initial post and have done their best to address my concerns and I have been assured my issues will be taken care of. I'm satisfied with how things have gone so far with Everlast! Heck, it's when stuff goes wrong that you know if you're dealing with right minded folks or not. Hey, my box of stuff got banged up by a shipping company in the middle of their biggest shipping season push of the year. Did I mention it arrived a day early! It isn't the end of the world. I got a welder that appears to need some cosmetic TLC(a plastic cover and a missing screw). If all goes the way I think it will the parts will be shipped, I'll swap'em out and things will be fine. If not, I'll return the welder for a replacement, (notice I said replacement not refund) and Everlast and I will still be on good terms. No biggie! My reason for posting this is to provide an update to my previous posts for those contemplating a welder etc. For me, the bucks are a much bigger deal than they were a year ago. I really want my money to go further, which is why I chose to do business with this company. I need more value for my money! I think Everlast has a bright future with a sound product line which is one of the reasons they got my business. If all goes as planned, a W300 water cooler is next. Just gotta save a little more!

[Zoomie]

Well, nothing much new really to report. I have been away for the last 2 weeks with work. I hope to get home Thursday evening and get everything fired up and running to verify my machine is healthy (still gotta get shielding gas etc) :rolleyes:. Oleg picked up the phone while I was talking to Katya about replacement parts, he wanted to check to see if there was anything he could help with. Very COOL! Hopefully the parts will show up the end of this week so I can get them swapped out and get started learning! Maybe a cooler and a Plasma cutter...

[Zoomie]

Okay, So I got home with shielding gas, got a cheapy welding bench from Northern Tool and all the the extraneous items etc I thought I'd need. I assembled the bench and got started organizing my stuff. Some are probably asking what my my rationale was for not building a bench. Well, the NT version is pretty light and easily moved by one person so I can get cars back in the garage. Just having rollers isn't enough. I got my rod, tungsten ground and everything hooked up, set up etc. and got down to burning some metal. I got a cheap piece of 16 gauge mild steel from Lowes, 70 S2 1/16" rod and started playing! 50 amps, pulse off, and the AC Freq and AC balance pointing at 12 oclock. All I can say is wow! It seems this is not going to be as difficult as I imagined! Don't get me wrong you professional types! I know you have been doing this all your life and that you don't have the luxury of knowing the type metal your working on nor the thickness and must hit the amperage right the first time with the correct filler rod. You have ALL MY RESPECT! Not to mention the skill and technique to make stuff happen on exotic metals and wierd locations, all from a "2nd degree burn" type of experience. I just really anticipated it to be MUCH more difficult just to get an arc started and get the coordination with the filler rod up and running. I used Jody Colliers rhythm method which helps immensely with the coordination (a thousand and one, a thousand and two, etc. dabbing the rod into the puddle at the end of each number then moving about 1/8 inch forward). Also understanding the melting/fusing process (tungsten melts base metal, puddle melts the rod). Another reason I think this seems much easier is the puddle seems SO MUCH EASIER TO CONTROL! I can see it more clearly therefore I can control it more easily, and again this has more to do with a capable machine than operator manipulation. When using my Miller MIG I always felt like I was chasing the machine. that is, trying to keep up with the wire feed. With this you can kinda bumble along at your own pace and still can make something happen other than a pile of bird poo. I think I'm gonna like this machine and definitely like the process. Now, if I could just figure out a way to quit dipping my freakin electrode in the puddle or touching the damn rod to it I'd be happy!!!:rolleyes:

A few notes:

Basic TIG welding during my first infantile steps is much easier than I anticipated it to be.

You are going to need more money than you thought to get set up (even if you do have a MIG welder, protective gear etc.)

I haven't yet gotten my welder replacement parts due to a snow storm. Katya forwarded the tracking no., but UPS keeps rescheduling delivery to the house).

The welder is awesome (and yes, I am a rank amateur). It is VERY adjustable and if you watch Mr. Jody Colliers TIG videos it'll put you miles down the road towards understanding your Powertigs settings and how they effect performance.

The TIG torch is stiff. This stiffness makes it slightly more difficult to manipulate the arc accurately due to the reduced flexibility of the cables/hoses. I have NEVER picked up a different TIG torch, so it may just be me.

Everlast's customer service, Mike Mark Ray Katya and above all Oleg, have been outstanding, second to none, period!

If you have questions for me that can be answered by a rank amateur feel free to do so via open forum or PM. I'll tell you everything I know! It should take about 5 seconds! :wink:

Lastly, I do not have any affiliation with Everlast or any of the above named folks. I would say if anything they (Everlast) think I'm an azz due to the way I have spoken to them and the number of times I called. In my defense, I'm an Air Traffic Controller, emotion does not figure into communications with aircraft, pilots or other controllers, data is king, all the emotional crap gets filtered out. Some folks see it as quite cold, but after 30+ years it seems normal and therefore appropriate to me. Others needless to say, do not.

[Rugar]

I got a cheap piece of 16 gauge mild steel from Lowes, 70 S2 1/16" rod and started playing! 50 amps, pulse off, and the AC Freq and AC balance pointing at 12 oclock.

Just a FYI, it doesnt matter where the AC settings are when TIGing mild steel on DC.

[Zoomie]

Hadn't thought of that, but you're right. I'm a nimrod!:D

[angular]

Okay, So I got home with shielding gas, got a cheapy welding bench from Northern Tool and all the the extraneous items etc I thought I'd need. I assembled the bench and got started organizing my stuff.

Hey, Zoomie. Which welding table/bench did you get? I'll soon be in the same boat you are, so to speak, getting my first TIG welder and watching Jody's videos over and over again. :)

Thanks.

-Bradley

[Zoomie]

Howdy Brad,
I got the $79.00 "Northern Industrial Tools Welding Table — 36in.L x 20in.W x 35in.H" Item# 628860. It seems to be pretty stable. I got it on sale for $67 bucks or so. The ad said it weighs about 40 lbs which seems about right. The table top looks like it's been zinc chromate coated for anti rust I suppose. When assembling, lay the top upside down attach legs then cross braces. Mine didn't come with instructions. Use a speed square to verify that the legs are vertical. I couldn't have built it from scratch for 70 bucks. I do plan to build a cart though.

[angular]

Thanks... I appreciate your feedback especially since that table only has one review. I'm on the fence right now between the one you got and the Strong Hand folding table for $130. Sounds like either one will get the job done, though. Decisions, decisions.

[Zoomie]

I probably would have gotten the strong hands version had it been a stocked item and I could have fondled it. Shipping was outragous. I guess I could've had it delivered to the store though...

[angular]

I just ordered it. $151.30 shipped to my office in Tacoma, WA. There aren't any Northern Tool retail locations on the West coast. All we gots is Harbor Freight. ;) Actually, we have Grainger (up in Bellingham, WA) and Grizzly and a few others aside from the big box stores.

Just need argon now! And the actual TIG welder of course. Hoping to see a shiny new 250EX by the end of next week if I'm lucky. In the mean time I'll have to unbox and play around with the metal cutting band saw I just got... entry level Jet HVBS-56M for $400.

[Zoomie]

Very nice! I didn't get the 250EX due to the extra cost, but would've prefered it I think. As to the machine, I'm sure your familiar with Jody Colliers site. Go there and watch the settings videos (6 now I think) until you can quote chapter and verse what "all those freakin knobs" functions are! It makes a world of difference. His other videos definitely help also. Heck, if you can spell welder you're miles ahead of me but I sure am having fun!

Zoom

[angular]

I was on the fence too. The 250EX is certainly more welder than I need, but I followed the principle of buy as much welder as you can afford, better to have it and not need than the other way around, etc. Most of my friends think I'm crazy and biting off more than I can chew with my (car) project, but that's OK. Mostly I'll be welding 304L. If I get in too deep, I do know some experienced TIG welders locally I can turn to for help.

[WaWelder]

I just ordered it. $151.30 shipped to my office in Tacoma, WA. There aren't any Northern Tool retail locations on the West coast. All we gots is Harbor Freight. ;) Actually, we have Grainger (up in Bellingham, WA) and Grizzly and a few others aside from the big box stores.

Just need argon now! And the actual TIG welder of course. Hoping to see a shiny new 250EX by the end of next week if I'm lucky. In the mean time I'll have to unbox and play around with the metal cutting band saw I just got... entry level Jet HVBS-56M for $400.

I know this is an old thread, but i wanted to chime in.
Angular, I too live i Tacoma, and there is or at least was a Grainger in Fife.

Everyone complaining about the shipping and all.
I have to wonder how many of you are going to UPS (the people that likely damaged you unit) and complaining to them. I ordered several items from everlast. I am not totally happy with double the wait time, on the backordered items, as I was told to expect. I am, however, happy as all H E double hockey sticks with the speed of delivery and the quality of my 250 EX. The packaging seemed to be adequate, assuming that some direspectful UPS driver with no work ethic, didnt abuse the package. Work ethic would dictate "Oh damn, I droped this package, I better call the boss annd let him know so we can make it right, or make sure the reciever opens the package and inspects it right away." Most of these problems come down to the drivers not the corporate office or even the packaging. A welder should be able to be shipped with no packaging (assuming an ethical delivery person) and arrive undamaged! I know my unit was supposed to be signed for, but I arrived home to find it in plain view of the street on my front porch. Again UPS not Everlast.

Sorry for the rant from a new member, but I have been blamed for things that happened after my involvelment in a task ended before, as I am sure we all have. Everlasts support staff seem to be open and helpful to everyone. We should be inundating UPS(or any other shipper) with the complaints, or the shipping problems will never end. If thier corporate never knows there is a problem, they cannot discipline the drivers or fix the problem.

I anxiusly await the arrival of the rest of my order, hopefully in undamaged condition.

Best of luck to all others doing the same!!!! :cool:

[angular]

They don't call 'em "United Package Smashers" for nothing! :)

However I would say that the 250EX is somewhat prone to shipping damage due to the fact the front plastic bezel is structual part of the chassis and supports a good deal of weight. One good drop and it's likely to break the bezel.

[WaWelder]

Yeah,
I have a Hobart Handler 125 with the same design. It got tipped over durring use once. Cracked the bezel pretty bad, but the unit still welds like a champ, and the handle attatched to it still carries the unit fine. I was teed off when it broke, but if they were indestructible, we couldnt afford them....lol

It all still boils down to, the units are designed to be droped.

Did you ever recieve your 250 EX? If so, how are you liking it? Mine is great, although my skill(or lack of)leaves for some ugly welds so far.

[angular]

Yep, I've had my 250EX since late January. After sorting threw a few minor issues (broken front bezel, blown multiplexer chip) and tweaking the foot pedal, it's working pretty well. I also got a CK-200 torch like Rugar did which is a great upgrade over the stock torch. Of course being a total welding noob, my welds pretty much look like a$$ right now. But I'm slowly getting better at it. Here's the "welding corner" of my garage.

http://s16v.com/photos/2011/03-01/P1010121_resize.JPG

[WaWelder]

Very nice, I am still getting my garrage set up. I have gotten some welding done though. I will post some ppics soon. I was lucky, in that my welder was in working order upon hook up. I did have a skipping problem in the foot pedal. I added a small bungee cord to the bottom of the track leg to add more contact force with the cog. Seems to have fixed the problem. I like you Jet band saw. Where did you get that?

[DiabolicZ]

Duncan,

Funny, when we had DHL here in the US, I couldn't wait for them to be gone. Then they were and UPS came along. I would score them a little better actually, but not what I hoped for. Not sure why US shipping is so bad.

U.S. shipping is so bad because we have lazy Americans working who don't give a crap about anything but what they think is owed to them. I don't think it's a matter of who the shipping company is. It all boils down to the type of employee in the industry. If someone leaves UPS, they will just go over to FEDEX because they have experience in the industry.

FedEx delivered my turbo to where I work. When they dropped it off, they literally DROPPED it off on the dock. I looked at the guy and said "That's a $1,500 turbo you just tossed onto the dock..." He just looked at me and said "Oh." I asked him how he still had a job and he just shrugged.

That was just one of the people handling the boxes IN FRONT OF CUSTOMERS. Imagine what happens when there are no customers around to see what is happening.

[WaWelder]

U.S. shipping is so bad because we have lazy Americans working who don't give a crap about anything but what they think is owed to them. I don't think it's a matter of who the shipping company is. It all boils down to the type of employee in the industry. If someone leaves UPS, they will just go over to FEDEX because they have experience in the industry.

FedEx delivered my turbo to where I work. When they dropped it off, they literally DROPPED it off on the dock. I looked at the guy and said "That's a $1,500 turbo you just tossed onto the dock..." He just looked at me and said "Oh." I asked him how he still had a job and he just shrugged.

That was just one of the people handling the boxes IN FRONT OF CUSTOMERS. Imagine what happens when there are no customers around to see what is happening.

I agree 100%. That is exactly what I was saying. This is alot of the same reason that American companies (like Everlast, ford, chevy, miller and most others) have taken thier manufacturing overseas. Lazy, unappreciative american workers that only care about putting in thier 8 hours, and not a bit a care about productivity or quality. Yes there are quality issues overseas, due to uneducated societies where the manufacturing plants are built. The difference is, those workers are doing things to the best of thier abilities based on the training provided. They are also Happy and Appreciative to have that job and makes changes to the procedures when trained to. If we Americans want to bring the manufacture back to our soil, we will need to learn and live the fact that our lazyness and lack of productivity is what dirves costs up and raises the prices at the shelf. Then we B**ch about those prices......bit of a conundrum, isnt it???

[everlastsupport]

Joshua,

Hope UPS didn't see your posts here, you might jinx the next 1/2 of your order. :D

Kidding aside, glad you guys know it is not all us here at Everlast. Trust me, last thing I want is a call to tech support unless it is to ask a welding question. We've tried to fix shipping over the years (DHL was worse). Funny thing, some people will call in and say the unit is fine and why all the bubble wrap (bubble wrap is expensive). Some areas, we wrap them for the ride. It is sad as we do pay "their rates".

Anyway, after seeing that Jet saw. Off to add a set of wheels to mine, don't know why I never thought of at. Thing is a pain to move around.

[WaWelder]

Joshua,

Hope UPS didn't see your posts here, you might jinx the next 1/2 of your order. :D

Kidding aside, glad you guys know it is not all us here at Everlast. Trust me, last thing I want is a call to tech support unless it is to ask a welding question. We've tried to fix shipping over the years (DHL was worse). Funny thing, some people will call in and say the unit is fine and why all the bubble wrap (bubble wrap is expensive). Some areas, we wrap them for the ride. It is sad as we do pay "their rates".

Anyway, after seeing that Jet saw. Off to add a set of wheels to mine, don't know why I never thought of at. Thing is a pain to move around.

Yeah, I suppose I could be jinxing myself, but from the sounds of the condition that some peoples product arrives in, they couldnt be any worse even if done on purpose.....lol

I agree on the jet saw, id like to have one, and the wheels would be a bonus!

[everlastsupport]

We are way off topic now, on an old post too. But what the heck.

WaWelder, probably fine on the unit shipping. I was just joking, I agree 100% on the UPS comments on the heavier units.

Angular, how old is that weller soldering iron you have. I have two that are 25+ years old that look just like that. Wondering is they kept the old look on the news ones today.

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Indeed the Weller soldering station is old! I think I got it when I was 20 and I'm now 40. Good grief, where'd the time go?!

I ordered the Jet saw from tools-plus.com (http://www.tools-plus.com/jet-hvbs-56m.html?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=froogle&utm_term=JETHVBS-56M) and it was about $400 delivered. It came with the wheels you see in the picture. Not a bad little saw for the money, although the blade is comes with is junk. You'll want to get a nice bi-metal blade for it right away.